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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: robalubious on October 26, 2008, 02:22:02 PM
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I LOVE my Rohrbaugh R9S. CF Grips. It’s completely BAD AZZ!!
It’s been great carrying everyday. Been great at the range as well.
My problem is that if Sh*# hits the fan, as so many of my friends and family are saying is possible. I will have for my main handgun, one that will really only work with a select and most expensive group of ammo. Which means that if I run out, I couldn’t use ‘pick up’ rounds or most of the ammo others use in their 9’s or carry in stores and my gun becomes obsolete in the time I need it most.
This wouldn’t be a concern if we just go on as we have and I carry this and an extra clip and the worst altercation will probably be taken care of with these dozen-ish rounds.
So my wife inherited a beautiful S&W .40 and I’m considering selling my R-9 for a Kahr PM40 so we can share ammo and not feel like I’m backed into a corner here, not being prepared for the worst. But she can see how I LOVE my R-9 and refuses to allow me to sell it. Anyone have any thought’s?
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If it gets THAT bad, you better not be depending on a handgun. I'd keep it and go to one of the ammo sights and order a few hundred rounds. Good luck has been reported Federal HST and Gold Dot, Winchester Silvertips (124g) and WWB. So there is plenty of ammo available that your R9 would probably shoot ok.
I understand that ammo is expensive and I guess it depends on how many rounds of 40 you've got stockpiled. As far as being ammo-picky, I think you can shoot a pretty good variety and be in the clear. What have you tried?
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If the poop hits, I intend to have my trusty AR15 at my side, along with the many thousand rounds I have accumulated in the last coupla years.
No doubt, the popularity of the .40 in Law Enforcement is a compelling argument to support that caliber. Personally, the next handgun I get will be a .40 for that reason. BUT ---
For everyday carry I cannot conceive of anything other than my R9. I have PLENTY of rounds stockpiled to get me back to my AR or a full size .40 or my Glock 19 (which will spit out ANY ammo.
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The Rohrbaugh is a very nice pistol. I like mine just fine.
What you need is a 12 gauge pump gun and a rifle...
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In time of conflict 223, 9mm, AK47rd (can't remember cal.#), and possibly 45acp & 308 will be the most likley ammo laying on the battle field used by friendlies as well as combatents. Good luck finding SW40cal. in quanities that might be needed in a time of conflict.
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AK
SKS
Ruger Mini 30
7.62 or 7.65(dang, cant remember) X 39
7.62X39
Excellent round. Good for deer wheras the 223 is NOT IMO.
riffraff
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I would buy a ..22 lr rifle and a brick of ammo. All this can be carried on person. Then you can pick up other weapons on the ground as things go from bad to worst. Tom
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22lr makes some sence to me.
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22lr is no good for a couple of reasons IMO.
Think of all these scoped hunting rifles in peoples homes. You need something to keep the bad guys further away than a 22lr is capeable of. You ain't going to be walking around unless you have no choice. If you do a lot of walking around you will be picked off PDQ. If you arn't holed up with some cover you ain't going to last long after the power goes out
If the SHTF there are going to be no battle lines. It will be a mass conflageration with shooting going on everywhere It is going to be a conbination race, relegion, class, ethnic and I HAVE NO WATER OR FOOD, three ring Chinese cluster f***.
I don't mean to sound like a black helicopter type but
We are one power outage away from the Stone Age. One week of no electricity and your neighborhoods will be in total anarcy. Personally I don't think I want to be around when that happens. I have no family except for a neice so it isn't like I have an obligation to take care of anybody. I am to old and crippled. If I can't have my Monday night football and cold beer then forget it. I don't want to have to live with wood stoves, outhouses and well water in a compound with a bunch of other smelly people.
Mike
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My R9 has Mr. Glock and Mr. Sig in 9mm to keep him company with plenty of brass for food. Also Mr. Browning in 1911 style with a few relations - Nighthawk & Baer. Sidearms are only to get me to my rifles. These are AK's ( 7.62 X 39 ) - Arsenal, Krebs and Rifle Dynamics.
P.S. - Don't sell the R9 but consider trading the wife for more ammo!
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I have to agree with NATO calibers, The R9 is a great CCW, but not a firearm for lots of shooting (carry lot shoot little) my choice is a 3G Glock 17 and Glock 26 as a BUG because they will both run the 33rd Mags. In addition I like the AR format due to supply of parts and options available. For pure home defense it is hard to beat a 12ga shotgun.
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If the poop REALLY hit the fan
Id have either a shotgun or assault rifle on me.
a Glock 17 on my hip, a glock 26 in a pocket and my R9S tucked away somewhere deep and hidden (front of the pants IWB?).
I would NOT depend on the R9S as my primary weapon in SHTF.
Its your sneaky back up.....
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The R9 is made for concealed carry. It is not for times when the fit hits the shan, as they say. When that happens, who cares about being able to carry concealed? Strap a big Sig, Glock, or 1911 on your side and carry an SKS or AK.
"We are one power outage away from the Stone Age. One week of no electricity and your neighborhoods will be in total anarcy. Personally I don't think I want to be around when that happens."
A personal note on this. Having just lived through Hurricane Ike and being without power for 12 days, it's not like that at all. In fact, it was a very rewarding experience. Everybody hung out together, all the kids and parents played together on the street, people shared food, batteries, water, etc. Nobody had to go to work, so we all had time to just clean-up from the storm, help each other out, and just be normal people. It really felt like we were in a small town, instead of the big city. I really think it would take an awful lot to cause the kind of anarchy you're imagining in your head, and even then people would tend to stick together in self-defined groups and would not be "lone wolfs".
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The R9 is made for concealed carry. It is not for times when the fit hits the shan, as they say. When that happens, who cares about being able to carry concealed? Strap a big Sig, Glock, or 1911 on your side and carry an SKS or AK.
"We are one power outage away from the Stone Age. One week of no electricity and your neighborhoods will be in total anarcy. Personally I don't think I want to be around when that happens."
A personal note on this. Having just lived through Hurricane Ike and being without power for 12 days, it's not like that at all. In fact, it was a very rewarding experience. Everybody hung out together, all the kids and parents played together on the street, people shared food, batteries, water, etc. Nobody had to go to work, so we all had time to just clean-up from the storm, help each other out, and just be normal people. It really felt like we were in a small town, instead of the big city. I really think it would take an awful lot to cause the kind of anarchy you're imagining in your head, and even then people would tend to stick together in self-defined groups and would not be "lone wolfs".
It might be that way in the right part of Houston but you need to read accounts of life in NewOrleans after Katria went thru.
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Oh, I have. And I believe that was as much a failure of the local government as it was of the populace. When the first priority on the police's mind is to disarm all of the law abiding citizens, it's all downhill from there.
There is something to be said for what sort of neighborhood you live in, I'll admit. But all in all, things went very well here in Houston, even in poorer neighborhoods. And pretty much 90% of the city was without power for anywhere from 5-15 days.
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First, don't sell your R-9. Just keep a about 4 bx of silvertips on hand for emergencys. Next get another 9mil. like a glock, or Springfield XD. Both will shoot about any ammo. Like others have said, if shtf. you will want a rifle. You can get a sks on the cheap, and stock up on wolf ammo. Or you can spend a little more and get a ak. Both shoot the same round 7.62x39 I had a mini 30 I sold because it would not allways crack the primer on the cheap Russan stuff, but the sks will. If you can afford an AR or FAL, thats what i would recomend. Stock up on ammo if you can because prices will be going up. Good luck.
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I REALLY appreciate all of the responses.
I have decided to keep my R9. I do already have rifles and Misc pistols etc. and I take all of your thoughts to heart.
Let's just pray we never have to find out what the best course was here.
Anybody want to make a guess at the possibility of the SHTF?
Anyone know how to stop it?
Your Brother in Arms-
robalubious
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SHTF can happen many ways and at anytime
there are just to many variables to factor into a shtf senerio
if your on the move how much ammo, food and other supplies can you really carry with you if your moble on foot
could u even drive? emp could knock out cars..not to mention cars are easy soft targets, other than the engine block a car provides very little cover
you have guns and ammo what about water, food and other necessities
there are so many things to take care of other than guns ammo and mags like you buggin in or buggin out if you do bug out where are you going if you bug in can you defend where your at
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More than one military guy with active duty experience has posted that if you have to rely on your pistol, then that means that your rifle, SAW team, and hand grenades didn't work. That's a kiss your ass goodbye type of scenario.
But with that said, most people report that our R9's work well with most ammo.
So in a really big SHTF scenario, I'd be using my AR-15 as primary weapon and my XD45 as holstered sidearm because it will run with anything I've ever put through it.
BUT, I'd strap my R9S to my ankle for when all hope is lost and I just want to take someone with me. :'(
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If the proverbial poop hits the spinning blades, I would hope you have something significantly more effective than you R9. You know the sayings, I use my pistol to fight my way to my rifle, I only carry a pistol when I know I not going to need a firearm, etc. I have many, what the liberal press likes to misidentify as, assault rifles, numerous AR's, VZ58, PTR-91, MSAR 556, etc which I would classify as WTSHTF firearms. I also would include just about every pistol I own except my R9S Elite in this category. Its just too small and impracticle. I carry it because it is conveinant, respectable power, etc. But if I trully thought I was going to need a firearm, the R9S would be my tertiary gun, at best.
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If there is a "war", your enemy will have much more than a handgun. However, if that is all you can have.... G L O C K model 20, 10mm.
Anything else is wishful thinking.
BTW, there is no fan; only a bunch of shit
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Note the impending Solar Flare activity coming to a peak in 2011. As it approaches, the activity will increase. Some think this may be one of the more active periods. One time before the telegraph lines in Canada shorted and caused many fires. If we have intense activity now, it could affect everything from satellites to cellular.
We are storing supplies if the delicate distribution system collapses. Bottled water in PET bottles, dry goods, medical supplies, and all the stuff are accumulating. We are hardening the house and collecting some ammo. Focusing on .40 for the Glock, .223 and .308 for the rifles, 12 gauge for the shotguns. My wife prefers the .38 revolvers and the .410. Layers of protection. All starting with a little pup in the pocket...
We found some small stoves that look like 5 gallon pails with an L shaped flue. They burn very small twigs and produce a lot of heat due to the efficiency of the design. These are generally called "rocket stoves."
That is really scary, but the unthinkable would be a horrible, political event. With Kennedy, there was no civil unrest associated with the occurrence. This preposterous horror could be the unraveling of the civility this society enjoys. Let's all do everything we can to prevent it.