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Title: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: LRHogFan on April 16, 2009, 11:59:21 PM
I posted this in one of the subforums, but it must not get a lot of love.  

When I changed out my grips, I had a really tough time getting the trigger spring to stay down.  It was very tight against the bolt that the arrow is pointing to.  Had to really push hard to get it down and then the pressure would force it off.  I finally managed to get it to stay down, but not after a lot of wishing that I'd never taken the grips off.  I sure don't feel like taking them off again anytime soon.

I just wanted to make sure this was normal or not.  I am assuming the grips will keep it from coming off, so long as the grips are screwed down tight.  I loc-tited the grips down when installing the new ones, so hopefully the screws don't back out.  The picture was borrowed from another thread as I didn't want to take the panels off again.  

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(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/LRHOGFAN/DCP_0749.jpg)

The arrow there is where I encountered the most resistance in getting the spring to stay down.  Had to really press on it to get it down and to get it to stay.  Is this normal?
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: Dino on April 17, 2009, 09:38:13 AM
Had some trouble the first time I took off my grips but it went a lot better from there on. Take mine off after every range outing but not for normal pocket cleaning.

Don't be afraid to try again.  Then again a number of our forum members say they never take the grips off.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: DTM_39 on April 20, 2009, 06:29:51 PM
LRHogFan,  No real reason to take grips off.  At about 500 rounds I took mine off just to look and clean and all was perfect.  I'm approaching 1000 rounds and have not been in there since.  Unless you drop it in the mud or salt water or some other unatural place for an R-9.  I would leave it alone.  Dan
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: ACP on April 20, 2009, 06:39:08 PM
That happened to me too when I changed stock grips for custom ones. I got it worked out when I realized what had happened.

Factory is (rightfully) concerned about right panel grip and addresses this issue.

Unless you are changing the grips, I agree that you should leave them alone.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: kjtrains on April 20, 2009, 08:55:36 PM
Yep!  I don't touch the grips!!!   :D   :D  That is, to take them off.  Just make sure the screws are tight.  
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: slashsplat on August 02, 2009, 01:10:09 PM
Had the same issues every time.  I also found some third-party grips were cut too deep and allowed the spring to pop off.  Seems like little reason to go in there.

Given how critical it is, and how it is possible for the grips to loosen at the worst time, a better retention method would be comforting...
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: LRHogFan on August 02, 2009, 02:18:09 PM
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Given how critical it is, and how it is possible for the grips to loosen at the worst time, a better retention method would be comforting...

I would feel a little better if there was at least some type of indention there for the hook to rest on.  It would definitely make me feel better about my chances if the grips were to somehow loosen.  I have my grips loctited on, but I still fear that they might come loose at the wrong moment.  
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: ACP on August 02, 2009, 07:49:24 PM
There is a lot of dialog on the forum as to grip screws; I seem to recall an issue as to how aluminum replacement grips poorly interfaced with grip screws; (Aluminum vs. steel).

I don't have the answer but that right grip, and the trigger spring, is something in which all R9 owners have rightful concern.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: tracker on August 02, 2009, 08:32:32 PM
My apparent issue with a failed grip screw was the dissimilar
metals corrosion possibility between steel screws and aluminum
frame.

Thanks to DaninVa and Richard for heightening my awareness on
this subject.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: sdlsaginaw on August 03, 2009, 12:58:04 PM
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I seem to recall an issue as to how aluminum replacement grips poorly interfaced with grip screws...

The grips poorly interfaced with the pins, thus putting all the recoil stress on the screws.  It was a manufacturing problem as opposed to an aluminum-vs-stainless issue.

Regarding the spring staying down, I had the same problem when I just tried to press the spring down on the post.  It just popped right back off.  

Instead, gently use a screwdriver to open the "O" as you push it onto the post, it stays on just fine that way.  
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: yankee2500 on August 03, 2009, 10:20:24 PM
 Mine was also popping off, so I opened my springs post hole up a bit with a pair of needlenose pliers, and it was fine after that.
John
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: Reinz on August 05, 2009, 09:02:47 PM
I had the same problem my first and only time.

The "S" part of the spring is not flat on mine, so it made it difficult to set in.

Now I do not pull the grips.


Reinz
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: kjtrains on August 05, 2009, 09:31:55 PM
Mine has never been off.  Heard of problems others were having, so I don't remove them;  so far no problems with loose grip screws.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: ACP on August 06, 2009, 01:15:07 PM
Not taking the grips off at all is the wisest course of action. However, there are those of us that have purchased replacement grips.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: kjtrains on August 06, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Would like to have the black CF grips, and that would be a good reason to remove them.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: ACP on August 06, 2009, 02:13:15 PM
Correct; there is no more worthy cause to replace grips.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: kjtrains on August 06, 2009, 02:21:47 PM
Now, I just have to find them.  You were very wise checking the forum in those early moringing hrs. to find your Robar.  That's what it will take to find the CFs; timing.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: ACP on August 06, 2009, 04:16:51 PM
I get up around 3AM seven days a week. This is a remnant of when I used to have to call China and India during their work hours. The joke in my office was that I could not stay awake for a 9PM conference call.

It was a happy accident that I looked at the forum only hours after the Robar R9 had been posted. I had just ordered one the day before and fortune smiled on me with the timing.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: horseman on August 06, 2009, 09:52:07 PM
I just replaced the standard grips with Hogues, and now i can't get the sear to engage the hammer after the first trigger pull.  When I first pulled the original grips, the pin holding the hammer spring and mag catch came off with the grip.  While replacing those parts, the trigger spring disengaged.  I put the spring and transfer/sear bar back in, put the spring does not put enough upward pressure on the transfer bar to engage  the sear with the hammer.  I have tried to gently bend the spring to achieve more pressure without success.

Does anyone have any ideas?  I will probably call Rohrbaugh tomorrow for advice, and possibly a new trigger spring.

Edit:  Ok, it's official, I'm an idiot.  It seems that the slide needs to be in place to push the hammer slightly back to engage the sear.  I had been testing the function without the slide, seeing how it's such a PIA to install/remove.  I called Rohrbaugh this morning, and they called me back within a couple of hours.  EXCELLENT customer service!

Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: Reinz on August 08, 2009, 01:25:04 AM
You're no Idiot.   We ALL go/went/are going/ through a learning curve with our R9's.  And we all learn from each other.

That's one of the main purposes of this forum.

I'm sure many just learned from your mistake.

I know I just did.

Thank you.

Reinz
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: Richard S on August 08, 2009, 09:40:19 AM
horseman:

There are any number of gun boards with members who attempt to pose as "world's leading experts." This Forum, thankfully, is not one of them. Thank you for sharing that information.
Title: Re: Trigger spring tough to keep down
Post by: slashsplat on August 08, 2009, 11:06:39 AM
This forum itself, as an AGGREGATE of the members, is the "world's leading expert".  Great place, great people.  Love this community.