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Title: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ap1169 on February 14, 2010, 12:55:07 AM
Which is the more rare? Blue or Black?  Which is worth more?  I talked with Maria and she told me that Rorbaugh made more pistols with the Blue Carbon Fiber Grips.  So, the Black should be the harder to find, Correct?  Please let me know your thoughts on this question.  Thanks, Robert
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 14, 2010, 07:49:58 AM
Robert.  Most people want the black.  Black does seem to be more rare.  Rohrbaugh making more pistols with the blue would explain the rarity of the black; so, my thoughts are, you are correct.  
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 14, 2010, 11:58:39 AM

That statement that more blue CF blue grips were made than black surprised me; wonder how many of each were made.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: theirishguard on February 14, 2010, 12:07:48 PM
Tom, I'm with you on that. The blue CF grips were first and then went to both colors then black CF grips. I thought the black looked better with the darker frame.  Tom
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 14, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
I agree with the black looking better.  Much better!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 14, 2010, 02:54:26 PM
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That statement that more blue CF blue grips were made than black surprised me; wonder how many of each were made.

Let's ask Maria!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: DTM_39 on February 16, 2010, 08:14:25 PM
I have a set of Black and a set of Blue.  My R-9 is wearing the Black right now. But maybe the Blue next week ;D
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 16, 2010, 08:56:23 PM
I have blue CFs, black CFs, G10s, silver aluminums, and OD aluminums. I tend to use the OD aluminums for everyday use and install the black CFs for BBQs.   8)
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 16, 2010, 09:12:44 PM
Some of us have obsessive ammunition hoarding disorder (OAHD) and some of us have obsessive grip acquisition disorder (OGAD). We know you're out there and maybe some confessions to these foibles might be cathartic.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 16, 2010, 09:29:14 PM
Confession of an OGAD: I love black carbon fiber grips and hate G10. My catharsis is to give away G10 grips to those who need them. In this way I am able to be of help to fellow forum members and (simultaneously) dump the material that I continue to regard as a big mistake on the part of the factory.

BTW: Anybody on the forum need a pair of G10 grips? I have yet another pair which, happily, were replaced on my two tone R9. My treat, to include postage. Anybody intersted, let me know.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 16, 2010, 10:18:41 PM

Your generosity in giving away the reviled G10 grips has been duly noted and gives you almost complete absolution of OGAD.

I forgot to mention the holster thing.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ap1169 on February 16, 2010, 11:55:22 PM
If you still have the G10 grips, I would give them a good home.  Robert
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 17, 2010, 07:07:52 AM
ACP.  Another good deed.  Excellent.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 17, 2010, 07:53:36 AM
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I have blue CFs, black CFs, G10s, silver aluminums, and OD aluminums. I tend to use the OD aluminums for everyday use and install the black CFs for BBQs.   8)

Richard.  That's alota grips!  That's a good thing.  I like the ones for BBQs.  Just me, of course.    8)     8)
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 17, 2010, 08:17:48 AM
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Some of us have obsessive ammunition hoarding disorder (OAHD) and some of us have obsessive grip acquisition disorder (OGAD). We know you're out there and maybe some confessions to these foibles might be cathartic.

Step 1. My name is Richard. I am an OGAD. I have at least two sets of grips for every handgun I own. I even have interchangeable stocks for most of my long guns. I not only have five sets of grips for my R9 but also once tried eight times to have a pair of silver grips cast for the "pup." I am  currently fighting the urge to order a pair of Esmeralda's grips for my primary 1911 even though I already have four sets for the pistol, one pair of which is a beautifully matched pair carved from imported Sambar Stag. I am an OGAD. I need help.   ;)
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 17, 2010, 08:28:09 AM
Ah, Richard.  Where've I heard, change your mind at the drop of a hat?  All in fun!  Step 2.  Help is on the way.   ;D     ;D    
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 17, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
By Richard's standards I am, at best, an apprentice OGAD. But, one lives in hope.

Robert: check your PM. Send me your address and the G10 grips are yours.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ap1169 on February 17, 2010, 11:13:04 AM
ACP, Thank you very much.
You are a very generous gentleman.
Robert
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 17, 2010, 11:43:58 AM
Robert.  A comment on your auction on GunBroker.  This is just my preference.  I am interested in an early R9, however, very early, and would want it the way the factory made it.  No changes.  Others may disagree and that's OK.    
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: theirishguard on February 17, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Richard, The Sambar Stag grips are perfect for your 1911, nothing new in grips would work there. 8) However, in an effort to help your condition, you could buy another pistol and then get some of her grips for that new pistola. Just trying to help. ;) :D ;D  Tom
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: birdman on February 17, 2010, 12:05:04 PM
    I have two sets of original equipment grips if anyone would like a set(or both) pm a mailing address. I'll gladly send them to you. Happily, I'm not a grip junkie. But if I go more than a week without buying any ammo I start to tremble a bit.    Gene            
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 17, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
Gene.  I know the feeling on ammo.    ;D
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 17, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
Because of this thread, my usual joie de vivre is beginning to suffer. Not only am I forced to admit that I am afflicted with the dreaded OGAD, I also see signs that I am developing OAHD, I am well known as a total "holster junkie," and I have rarely seen a gun I didn't like or want (Bryco, Jennings, etc. excepted).

I think I'll ease the pain by retreating this evening into a bottle of Irish whiskey about as old as I am. [size=10][Wait a minute . . . . Does that mean I have yet another problem?   :-/]  [/size]
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: theirishguard on February 17, 2010, 04:04:41 PM
Richard, I'll join you...Slainte   Tom
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 17, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
Lightbulb moment: While Richard and Tom are retreating to the bottle, I just thought of diamond grips! If you have carbon fiber grips you are on your way. Just place your cf grips under intense pressure for a million years and there you go.

Besides enjoying your new diamond R9 grips, the R45 might,(by then), actually be in production!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ap1169 on February 17, 2010, 06:38:01 PM
Forum members, PLEASE do not bid on the GB pistol.  I was changing the grip screws back to the original silver screws and stripped out the black screw.  I must get it repaired before I can sell this Rohrbaugh.  Please understand, Robert
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 17, 2010, 07:17:01 PM
Robert.  Thanks for letting us know.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 18, 2010, 09:09:53 AM
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   I have two sets of original equipment grips if anyone would like a set(or both) pm a mailing address. I'll gladly send them to you. Happily, I'm not a grip junkie. But if I go more than a week without buying any ammo I start to tremble a bit.    Gene            

More good deeds.  Gene.  I'm sure there's someone here can use your grips.  Excellent.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 18, 2010, 10:05:35 AM
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I think I'll ease the pain by retreating this evening into a bottle of Irish whiskey about as old as I am. [size=10][Wait a minute . . . . Does that mean I have yet another problem?   :-/]  [/size]

Richard.  How'd that work out for ya?    ;D     ;D
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 18, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
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Richard.  How'd that work out for ya?    ;D     ;D

"Give an Irishman lager for a month and he's a dead man. An Irishman is lined with copper, and the beer corrodes it. But whiskey polishes the copper and is the saving of him." [size=10](Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi, ch. 23 [1883])[/size]  

Have I ever mentioned that my paternal grandmother was a bonnie lass from County Cork?   8)
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 18, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
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"Give an Irishman lager for a month and he's a dead man. An Irishman is lined with copper, and the beer corrodes it. But whiskey polishes the copper and is the saving of him." [size=10](Mark Twain, Life on the Mississippi, ch. 23 [1883])[/size]  

Have I ever mentioned that my paternal grandmother was a bonnie lass from County Cork?   8)

Don't remember you mentioning that.    ;D    However, haven't read all the posts, either.   Sounds like the Irish whiskey is some good stuff!   :)     :)
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 18, 2010, 02:26:58 PM
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That statement that more blue CF blue grips were made than black surprised me; wonder how many of each were made.

Brenden states in his post of 2/19/08 that 300 were made with blue CF grips then went to black until material ran out.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: birdman on February 18, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
   Don't want to hijack the thread. But, both sets of G-10s are gone (amen).           Gene
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 18, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
birdman: You are not hijacking; you are returning to the thread's origin. As to your comment regarding G10? Well done.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 19, 2010, 07:53:28 AM
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  Don't want to hijack the thread. But, both sets of G-10s are gone (amen).           Gene

Gene.  Good deed accomplished!  You did good!  Excellent.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ap1169 on February 19, 2010, 05:51:58 PM
Thank you ACP for the grips and even screws.  You are definitely a Gentleman.  Thanks Again, Robert
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 19, 2010, 07:46:09 PM
Robert.  Wishing you the best on the repair of your R9.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 19, 2010, 09:42:15 PM
Robert
You are most welcome. It's an honor to send the grips to San Antonio, the home of the Alamo. Given the present political climate, the Alamo, for me, is all the more hallowed ground.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 19, 2010, 10:10:16 PM
Well stated and with a keen perception, ACP; we will issue you a Texas Passport anytime.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 21, 2010, 09:30:45 PM
But, I am a native of New Jersey and I don't speak Texan. I am not worthy.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 21, 2010, 10:05:47 PM
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But, I am a native of New Jersey and I don't speak Texan. I am not worthy.

ACP:

Quite the contrary! It would appear that one Robert Cochran, a member of Carey's company, was born in 1810 in the State of New Jersey (some records might say New Hampshire, but the Cochran County History lists him as a native of New Jersey) and died a hero's death defending the Alamo. Cochran County, Texas is named for him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alamo_defenders

http://www.txgenweb2.org/txcochran/cochran_county_history.htm

As for speaking Texan, it'll begin to come naturally after a few days hanging around some of those beautiful Texas women.  ;)
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 21, 2010, 10:41:31 PM
Thanks for the Cochran info. When I went to Texas Tech, the only place to buy beer was in Bledsoe, Tx., on the N.M. line. There was a great bar there on the line where we would celebrate "Thirsty Thursday" almost every week. I had no idea that was Cochran County.

The added advantage is that we were in the next time zone in N.M. and the bar closed at midnight but it was 1 a.m. Texas time. It is a wonder we are all mostly still alive.
 

Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 22, 2010, 06:00:37 AM
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But, I am a native of New Jersey and I don't speak Texan. I am not worthy.

ACP.  Tracker will be glad to teach you the lingo.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 22, 2010, 10:39:49 AM

We could do basic Texan in a week or so, but all of the different dialects take a bit longer.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: theirishguard on February 22, 2010, 11:50:10 AM
tracker, when I lived in Lubbock, we just had to drive out to the "strip" for adult beverages and sign a note book to go into a club.  Tom
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 22, 2010, 12:11:17 PM
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We could do basic Texan in a week or so, but all of the different dialects take a bit longer.

I believe basic Texan would work!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 22, 2010, 03:31:37 PM
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tracker, when I lived in Lubbock, we just had to drive out to the "strip" for adult beverages and sign a note book to go into a club.  Tom

Tom:

I was working in a certain country in 1980 which had imposed religious law and outlawed, among other things, the consumption of alcoholic beverages by its citizens. Severe restrictions were imposed on foreigners who were in country on temorary visas and wished to consume alcohol. In order to get a drink of whiskey, we visa holders were required to repair to a windowless room in the bowels of the hotel -- a place with a locked door resembling a speakeasy during Prohibition -- present our room key to gain admittance, and then sign a paper indicating that we were alcoholics who required the beverage to avoid withdrawal symptoms. Meanwhile, just down the street, you could openly and legally purchase over-the-counter from the neighborhood chemist (here read "drug store") various items which U. S. law would describe as controlled substances .


Somewhere in the Near East, moldering in a subterranean  vault, there may still be a number of written documents bearing my signature in which I declared myself to be a hopeless alcoholic.   8)

As the old movie title stated, it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 22, 2010, 04:41:09 PM

Richard,

That is just the practical side of working within the system and going with the flow in your case. The hypocrisy that exists in that part of the world is quite staggering, however.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 22, 2010, 08:57:10 PM

FYI,

I just deleted a previous post that had some pop-up ads in the map that may not be acceptable to some of the forum members.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ACP on February 22, 2010, 10:03:31 PM
Wow. I realize quite a few posts have transpired since my statement about how "I am not worthy".

I am particulary grateful to Richard for posting the thread about a native of NJ having actually defended the Alamo.

Let's hope Obama doesn't try to convert the Alamo into a center for social tolerance for "Undocumented Aliens".
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: tracker on February 22, 2010, 10:58:56 PM

"Remember the Alamo" is proudly preserved on this forum.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 22, 2010, 11:14:37 PM
Amen and Amen!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 23, 2010, 05:59:55 AM
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tracker, when I lived in Lubbock, we just had to drive out to the "strip" for adult beverages and sign a note book to go into a club.  Tom

The exciting days!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Brenden on February 23, 2010, 05:21:03 PM
Concerning the black vs blue grip numbers,300 blues were made for the very first pups..

I always figured that there were more black than blues,I really like the blue better than the black,but currently carrying blacks on my pup!!

I have OEM "extras" in blue and black,plus another CF from this forum,and a G-10 for grins!!

No one can compare to Richard and his grip fetish though.. ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Richard S on February 23, 2010, 07:36:21 PM
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* * *

No one can compare to Richard and his grip fetish though.. ;)  ;D

Brenden, my dear and valued friend, just for that I've resurrected these photographs of two of my "safe queens" which were honorably discharged after I took delivery of R9 No. 132.

[BLING Alert!   8) ]  

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/G380HedleyHolster.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/g32customizedwith9-year-oldhedleyho.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: Brenden on February 23, 2010, 08:05:49 PM
Richard,
Even with the Bling alert,my eyes still hurt!!! :)

I have always enjoyed those cornea burners!!!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: kjtrains on February 24, 2010, 05:44:18 AM
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FYI,

I just deleted a previous post that had some pop-up ads in the map that may not be acceptable to some of the forum members.

Very thoughtful, for sure.
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: P7Enigma on February 24, 2010, 02:31:57 PM
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Tom:

I was working in a certain country in 1980 which had imposed religious law and outlawed, among other things, the consumption of alcoholic beverages by its citizens. Severe restrictions were imposed on foreigners who were in country on temorary visas and wished to consume alcohol. In order to get a drink of whiskey, we visa holders were required to repair to a windowless room in the bowels of the hotel -- a place with a locked door resembling a speakeasy during Prohibition -- present our room key to gain admittance, and then sign a paper indicating that we were alcoholics who required the beverage to avoid withdrawal symptoms. Meanwhile, just down the street, you could openly and legally purchase over-the-counter from the neighborhood chemist (here read "drug store") various items which U. S. law would describe as controlled substances .


Somewhere in the Near East, moldering in a subterranean  vault, there may still be a number of written documents bearing my signature in which I declared myself to be a hopeless alcoholic.   8)

As the old movie title stated, it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

Oh does all that sound familiar!....been there done that!

Cheers to all our not so inebriated geniuses in sandland!
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ccoorreeyy on February 24, 2010, 06:15:26 PM
I've always assumed there were more blacks than blues but have nothing to verify that with other than knowing about the 300 blues and that the cf grip guns made it up into the R900's or so.  I've thought for years that there were about 300 blues and 600+ black ones.
Corey
Title: Re: Black or Blue Carbon Fiber Grips???
Post by: ap1169 on February 25, 2010, 12:53:29 AM
Thanks Corey for the information.  That was what I was looking for when I started this post.  Robert