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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: chameleon on April 18, 2010, 06:25:45 PM
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My new R9 has a very tight fitting magazine catch. Each magazine is removed with a great degree of difficulty.
There is no simple pushing of the catch rearward and popping out the magazine, I have to either push with a painful amount of pressure or push upward on the magazine itself while pushing the catch rearward.
My friend's new R9 ( one serial number off from mine) has the same issue.
I don't remember this problem with the other R9 I owned.
Just curious if any one else has this issue.
Is this now by design?
Would you be happy with it working so difficult?
I can reassemble the recoil spring into the slide without tools, my hands are strong, this magazine catch is tough.
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I have to slightly push the mag up to work the mag catch, but it is nothing like you are describing.
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It don't really sound right to me. I've had lots of these guns and none were as you described.
I am starting to wonder if other parts to these guns are being out sourced (we now know the slides are being made outside the factory). From reading here on the forum things latley don't seem to "fit" together as they once did with these guns. I hope the quality of our coveted pups are not starting to slip by the wayside. Please don't take my comment as a "hater" of the R9 because I'm a LONG way from that. I do hate to read of problems with them though.
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Chameleon, I had a similar problem with the pup I bought a year ago. My solution was to use a dry lubricant on the bottom of the magazine where the magazine catch fits. I also used it on the catch.
That seemed to solve the problem for me, though I still wish the release was bigger and had serrations on it for a better grip
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My new R9 has a very tight fitting magazine catch. Each magazine is removed with a great degree of difficulty.
There is no simple pushing of the catch rearward and popping out the magazine, I have to either push with a painful amount of pressure or push upward on the magazine itself while pushing the catch rearward.
My friend's new R9 ( one serial number off from mine) has the same issue.
I don't remember this problem with the other R9 I owned.
Just curious if any one else has this issue.
Is this now by design?
Would you be happy with it working so difficult?
I can reassemble the recoil spring into the slide without tools, my hands are strong, this magazine catch is tough.
Sounds like the magazine catch spring is too strong. Could be Rohrbaugh got a bad batch of springs. Just a thought.
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I'd say the spring may not be the problem, with out a magazine the catch is very easy to move. My thought is that the catch needed to be the slightest bit longer, or the pivot hole on the catch itself was drilled slightly in the wrong place.
My friend seems to think this is a good problem as he won't inadvertently drop a magazine.
Lubrication probably will not help in this case either, just way too much metal.
Maybe a phone call to get a new catch and I'll replace it.
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That could be it as well. Hope so. Good luck!
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Looking at this magazine catch a little closer, it has a rim on it that actually locks into the magazine. I am starting to think this by design.
Then again, why make it so darm hard to get a magazine out of the gun.
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I have the same issue with my new Stealth. My 1st gen R9S mag catch worked much easier. I plan on making a phone call to the factory to discuss with them.
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Mine has the lip too that engages the groove in the mag base plate.
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Mine has the lip too that engages the groove in the mag base plate.
I have not confirmed from Marie if this is the correct function. It seems just way to hard to operate.
The lip sure does guarantee a solid lock up on the magazine though.
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Mine has always required that I push the mag in and then slide my thumb back to disengage the catch. No problems with the mag coming out unexpectedly.
Rick
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On my early edition R9 (No. 132), the magazine release also has a lip to engage the groove in the mag plate. When the release is pushed back, the magazine will pop out about 1/2" if the pistol is held horizontally. If the pistol is held upright when the release is activated, the magazine will fall out of the well unless prevented from doing so -- about the closest thing to a "speed reload" as could be achieved with a heel-mounted mag release. I take pains to prevent that from happening at the range to avoid damage to a magazine but wouldn't hesitate to allow it in a "SHTF" situation.
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I spoke to Marie today and we decided mine is as it should be. I'm happy with the conversation I had with her.
My friend Doug-2 also thinks it a great advantage to have a little difficulty removing the magazine so it won't accidentally be dropped out albeit from shooting or any other inadvertent act.
Thank you all for your replies.
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chameleon. Great that nothing is wrong. Maria comes to the rescue. :)
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I'll tell ya, she is really great. I was floored with her memory and recalling things she and I talked about in the past.
Her knowledge of the pistols and the workings of everything encompassing the company is astounding.
After the conversation with her, I was happy that my R9 was just as it should be. A lesser person on the other end of that phone may have had me sending the pistol back for no reason.
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Have been off for awhile and just read your thread on the mag catch.
Mine went back for repair and they replaced upgraded items included the magazine catch.
Yes the same as yours - need to push up on the magazine to release the new catch. Sounds like it is all normal so thanks for doing the leg work on this.
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MountainMan,
welcome back, it has been a while sense I saw you post.
John
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Dave. Good to see you back.
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Hi Dave, good to see you back out and about.
Yeah, a pleasant conversation with Marie about the catch.
Makes sense that it is a bit tighter fit.
I'm liking it that way now.
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I just bought a new early serial number stealth (21XX) and my mag catch is exactly as you described. You actually need to push up on the mag to realease. This is good and this can also be very bad. It's good 99.99% of the time in the real world keeping the mag from dropping when it's not suppose to, and its very bad in a gun fight (that .01%) when you need two hands to change magazines.
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Welcome back, Dave. (Shot any bad novels lately? ;D )
[I suppose I should edit this post for the newcomers to the Forum. It's just that back in the early days, if Dave didn't like a novel, he was known to use it as a target for his R9 -- and post the photographs to show depth of penetration of various loads. 8)]
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Sounds like a fine use of a bad book, and a good excuse to shoot the pup.
John
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Hey, John. Pup doesn't need an excuse to shoot; just go shoot and the bad book gets destroyed as a bonus! ;D ;D
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MountainMan,
I'm wondering what changes were made to the magazine catch so you no longer need to push up/in on the magazine to release it.
Did they grind off the little lip that fits into the notch in the magazine base plate?
Does the mag stay in place well? Has it ever popped out on you?
Thanks
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Have been off for awhile and just read your thread on the mag catch.
Mine went back for repair and they replaced upgraded items included the magazine catch.
Yes the same as yours - need to push up on the magazine to release the new catch. Sounds like it is all normal so thanks for doing the leg work on this.
Kanuist. Still need to push up on the magazine to release. Mine is that way as well; nearly 14 months old now.
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MountainMan,
I'm wondering what changes were made to the magazine catch so you no longer need to push up/in on the magazine to release it.
Did they grind off the little lip that fits into the notch in the magazine base plate?
Does the mag stay in place well? Has it ever popped out on you?
Thanks
I sent my R9 in for another repair and it came back with a new mag latch upgrade - need to push up on the mag to release it.
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Welcome back, Dave. (Shot any bad novels lately? ;D )
[I suppose I should edit this post for the newcomers to the Forum. It's just that back in the early days, if Dave didn't like a novel, he was known to use it as a target for his R9 -- and post the photographs to show depth of penetration of various loads. 8)]
Yes I did shot a novel two weeks ago but used a S&W ;D
Richard - for the fun of it I copied that old post below.
Dave
Stephen King's Book Bites The Bullet(s)
Years ago I read Stephen King's huge book (put a dent in my chest it was so heavy), "IT". It had such a stupid ending I didn't read another of his books for years - until this week.
Well I decided to give him another chance and bought Stephen King's latest book "CELL".
I should have stopped half way through when the plot started getting too wierd. Should have stopped two-thirds of the way through when he killed off the best character. But no - I went to the end - and once again a stupid ending.
Ten minutes after I finished it this morning I took it out into the woods with my Rohrbaugh R9 loaded with a magazine of six Speer 115 grain GDHPs. (Was going to use my Seecamp but decided it deserved a larger caliber.)
I then went back about 20 feet and put it out of it's misery - no failures to feed. Didn't want anyone else to go through the grief with this copy.
I will never read another Stephen King book!
The pictures below where not taken were the shooting took placed so you don't see all of the pieces laying around.
Oh - the Rohrbaugh was carried out to the woods to do the deed in a RJ holster.
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All rounds exited out the back
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Book Autopsy Report
Two hard covers - 402 pages or 201 sheets of paper - thickness 1 1/2 inches.
Even after expanding to produce an 1 1/8 inches exit hole the slugs still bore into a dead tree trunk. I should of recovered one but didn't think about it. Don't feel like going back to the scene of the book execution in the forest this morning and having to do another tick check.
I would say that Speer 9mm 115 gr GDHP can do the job - that is if you're ever attacked by a book.
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Book wound channel
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Good report, Dave. I see execution of copy of novel was accomplished. ;D
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Dave:
Like fine wine, it only gets better with age. ;D