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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: Wired on June 09, 2010, 09:56:26 PM
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thinking of trying the 95 grain offerings from federal or magtech
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I'm a supporter of only using what's been recommended by Rohrbaugh and here on the Forum. Saves one's self a lot of grief.
Course, now some here think differently! And that's OK! :)
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Wired,
Why bother with it? If you try it let us know how it performs.
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There is a reason why, as chameleon, put it on another thread, why a certain ammo is not recommended. I like to listen to proven results.
There again, just my thinking, and some others!
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I am a supporter of experimenting
the lighter weight bulllet may be easier on the frame while gaining velocity.
Corbon makes a 95 gr round especially for the R9
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/cPath/119/products_id/4617
or perhaps Magtech
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=75464
or Winchester
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=75531
or Federal
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM457-1.html
so, any daring R9 owners try any?
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Corbon did have some takers here on the Forum and it didn't perform and ended up sending the ammo back to Corbon. Took them months to get a replacement. Here is a link on the Corbon:
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=R9S;action=display;num=1232132269;start=0
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I don't have any of the lighter 9mms, if I did I would have to give them a try. inquiring minds want to know. ;D
I don't think I would consider using it for a carry round, but see no reason to not try it. The Federal at $12.69 for 50 is a pretty reasonable price for practice ammo, and as stated may be easer on the pup.
John
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John has tried 7 different brands of ammo and all of them has performed well; so he is one of the daring ones. ;D
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I am sitting on a few boxes of 95gr DPX, I have not come across any testing with the 95gr DPX, just the 80gr DPX. According to Mike Shovel at Cor-bon the 95gr were supposed the 80gr replacement...see kjtrains link.
My R9s has only been fed GD 115gr (with one failure from faulty primer...see my post) and been reliable up too 150rds. I prefer con-bon DPX loadings and their copper bullets. I think the slightly heavier 95gr are worth the testing. I'll let you know how they work out,
Mike
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I wonder about the recoil on the DPX at 1300 fps. but good luck.
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Another daring soul! And that's what make the world go around. Everybody can't like or do the same thing.
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If nobody tried the new stuff we would never know if any of the new rounds are better in and better for our pups. I say go for it, I will as long as things are not +P.
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Different strokes for different folks. That's why Rohrbaugh and Seecamp recommend what to use; so it doesn't blow up in our face or hurt the gun. We're not the experimental force to see what works and what doesn't.
That being said, I have to say to each his own. I also say it in the most earnest way. Try it if you must.
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If nobody tried the new stuff we would never know if any of the new rounds are better in and better for our pups. I say go for it, I will as long as things are not +P.
Corey,
I agree 100% the factory does not have time to try every brand of ammo that is or comes on the market.
John
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John. To each his own. :)
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John. To each his own. :)
Absolutely, thats what makes a forum like this and world go round, those who do and those who benefit from the doers.
John
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I do like it. I've learned a lot here, and try to pass it on to others.
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John. To each his own. :)
OK I get it! Thanks for contributing!
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Wired,
I just ordered a couple of boxes of the Federal 95gr, they should be here next week. I will let you know if my pup likes them. If you haven't already ordered and are going to, get the Magtecs, that way we will have tested two brands of lighter bullets. :D
John
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Excellent John, i'll get the Magtecs
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Very good, Wired and John. Hope they work. I'll learn something else.
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Hello Everyone,today I fired 40rds of Cor-Bon 95gr DPX with no issues at all as far as functionality is concerned. However there was ample evidence of keyholing (about 1 in4) and the accuracy for me was not as good as my typical GD groupings. And as we all know 40rds is hardly enough to establish complete reliably but I feel that was enough for today. I wonder if other will have the same results, thanks,
Mike
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Thank you. That was a considerable investment in ammo for the cause. Very odd they would keyhole. I noted this on old 125 gr Nyclads with about the same frequency. Still waiting for my Magtecs to arrive
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Interesting about the keyholing, how does the recoil compair to 115gr Gold Dots or Silvertips ?
This is the info on the ammo I will be trying in my pup.
It will be interesting to see how it feeds.
Extremely rare 9mm Luger made by Federal Cartridge Company for Radway Green to be used in applications where low ricochet bullets are a necessity, such as Urban Combat. Brass is headstamped RG. Loaded with a very unique 95 Grain Jacketed Soft Point flat nose bullet.
High velocity standard pressure load is safe for use in all modern firearms.
John
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I'm going to answer out of school here, but would think the recoil would be less. Just my thoughts and will be interesting to know.
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I agree, I can tell you when I had my custom 44 Rhino, there was a big difference in recoil between a 180gr and a 320gr bullet.
John
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I have the same experience with the .454 shooting 300gr. and then dropping to 250 gr. A big difference, however, I like the 300 gr. better.
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I could not noticeably tell the difference btw the recoil of the 115gr GD and the 95gr DPX. After shooting 40rds of the DPX, I shot my carry 115gr GD's (6+1 and 6rd mag) tighter groupings no signs of keyholing on the target. Total of 53 rounds today, no failures, but I did notice my grips becoming loose...need to trade for the CF black ones.....................
Mike
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A little BLUE loc-tite on the screws will cure the loose grip problem, a dab of nail polish is said to work also, I can't verify that because my wife won't let me near hers. ;D
John
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John. You can buy a bottle of your own nail polish. ;D
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John. You can buy a bottle of your own nail polish. ;D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
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I wouldn't know were to find it, I just hang out in the frozen food isle. :o
John
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John. You could ask a clerk! ;D
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John. You could ask a clerk! ;D
Unfortunately my experience at Walley World is more like you could ask a Jerk, but it rhymes with clerk. And they just rearranged the entire store, new floor tile, moved the
pharmacy, anything I could find before, I can't find now. :'(
John
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The Federal 95gr JSP ammo arrived today, I will give it a try in the next day or two.
John
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Unfortunately my experience at Walley World is more like you could ask a Jerk, but it rhymes with clerk. And they just rearranged the entire store, new floor tile, moved the
pharmacy, anything I could find before, I can't find now. :'(
John
They did the same with ours. Made the isles wider, I do like that; things to look for, I agree; where is it! ;D
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The Federal 95gr JSP ammo arrived today, I will give it a try in the next day or two.
John
Sounds good, John. Think I know the answer already. ;D
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The thing I find interesting is there are two other stores near me, one in Thomasville and one in Randelman and neither of those stores even have tile on the floor (only in the clothing sections) and the Asheboro store had tile throughout the store that looked fine, and they replaced it all. :o
John
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They must not have liked the color. ;)
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Same color went in as came out ::)
John
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Well, then, must have been they just wanted to spend money. :D
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I went out today in the extreme heat, exposing myself to possible grave bodily injury, to be able to post my findings. ;D
I fired 25 rounds of the Federal 95gr JSPs through the pup, function was flawless. I did not notice any keyholing, and recoil seemed to be less than the 115gr. Hornady Critical Defense I fired just before. I also put 15 rounds of the 95gr Federal through the new Kahr PM9, and had no issues.
John
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excellent! thanks for enduring the heat. My ammo order has been delayed, hopefully next week
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I went out today in the extreme heat, exposing myself to possible grave bodily injury, to be able to post my findings. ;D
I fired 25 rounds of the Federal 95gr JSPs through the pup, function was flawless. I did not notice any keyholing, and recoil seemed to be less than the 115gr. Hornady Critical Defense I fired just before. I also put 15 rounds of the 95gr Federal through the new Kahr PM9, and had no issues.
John
Very good, John. Thanks for your findings. Another option in ammo. :)
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I think it would be a very good range ammo, and being $12.69 for a 50 round box would make it an economical choice, and maybe a little easer on the pup and the master.
I would want to put a couple of boxes through any gun before I would call it 100% reliable.
The next time I shoot some of these 95gr Federals I will shoot some gallon jugs filled with water, and see if I can recover a slug to check the expansion characteristics.
John
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Sounds good, John. Looking forward to those results.
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Magtec first defense 92 gr clocked at about 1200 average 4 shots. did not get to shoot for accuracy today but one shot keyholed at the 7 yd target. less recoil than the 115 GD
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I've been wanting to try some of that. Hope to get some soon.
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Magtec first defense 92 gr clocked at about 1200 average 4 shots. did not get to shoot for accuracy today but one shot keyholed at the 7 yd target. less recoil than the 115 GD
Thanks for the results, Wired.
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Getting 1200 fps avg 5 shots
25 yd target, center hold
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Looks good!
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Yep. Sure does. More good information.
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another, fed 95 gr
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Thanks! Wired.
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Good shooting!
I can't even seeee bullseye at 25 yards!
Reinz