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Title: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kcub on November 17, 2010, 05:30:50 AM
Mainly concerned about recoil in the weak hand as I plan to use it as the ultimate back pocket backup.

Mine is supposedly about a week away.
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Richard S on November 17, 2010, 06:24:03 AM
I use my R9 as both as primary and backup, depending on attire and circumstances -- but I always have the R9.
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 17, 2010, 08:26:37 AM
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Mainly concerned about recoil in the weak hand as I plan to use it as the ultimate back pocket backup.

Mine is supposedly about a week away.

kcub.  Your plans may change as you get used to the R9, to the ultimate carry.
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: bama on November 17, 2010, 09:42:22 AM
It is occasionally a back-up gun. Sometimes the gun I carry in places I can't carry a larger gun.  ;D Even then, I don't feel too bad.
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 17, 2010, 11:53:20 AM
I carry mine as a primary, If I feel the need for more than the pup I carry the Kimber or Kahr PM40 and never carry two guns.

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Ucitykid on November 17, 2010, 01:25:39 PM
My stealth is primary with all clothing.  
Good luck with your R9 and enjoy.  
My H&K P7 is now relegated to home protection except on special occasions.  

You won't regret your R9 purchase!  

Regards and welcome to the group!  Carlos
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Recluse on November 17, 2010, 03:53:42 PM
Primary, unless I'm going out in the wilderness, where I carry something bigger in case of bear or cougar.
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Reinz on November 17, 2010, 04:34:34 PM
I use mine primarily as a BUG, sometimes primary depending upon dress.

Weak hand recoil is a valid concern.

 If the hand/wrist is not held firmly enough or some refer to it as "locked wrist", you can get failures to eject (stovepipe), and failures to feed.
You have to have 100% confidence in your carry piece.

Just be sure to spend extra range time and rounds learning the right techniques  - AFTER you have them down with your strong hand.

Most of us don't like to practice with our weak hands because it is awkward, not fun and it makes us look bad to others.
But like anything else, with practice, you will get better and it will become fun and second nature.

Good Luck and Good Shooting


by the way, I carry mine weak side because of a forum member's advice about "what if the strong hand is tied up doing something else with the bad guy".
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kcub on November 17, 2010, 06:53:30 PM
I've carried 2 guns for years.  

Redundancy.  High availabillity.  Failover.
Computer system terminology that is valid in regard to self defense.  What if your gun jams?  What if you run dry?  What if you get shot in your primary arm or gun?  If that happens to me I just go to gun #2.

My primary is either a Glock G26, a Ruger SP101 or a PM9.
Backup has been a Seecamp .32 for years but lately I've been carrying a Sig P238 or micro Desert Eagle when I have large enough back pockets.  

All these guns are carried in pocket holsters.
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 17, 2010, 07:33:54 PM
  I had a G-26 and it was a great gun but at 28.10oz loaded and as wide as it is it was too much for pocket carry for me. I also had a PM9 it was better for pocket carry at 15.9oz loaded but still a little large and heavy by my standards.

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 17, 2010, 07:38:52 PM
Never had a Glock 26, but do love a Glock 33!    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 17, 2010, 08:14:16 PM
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Never had a Glock 26, but do love a Glock 33!    ;)

Also a little large and heavy for pocket carry. ;D ;D

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 17, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
Carry the 33 in a Don Hume pocket holster, so it can be done!  Depends on the individual and what one likes.    ;D  
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Recluse on November 17, 2010, 08:45:11 PM
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Most of us don't like to practice with our weak hands because it is awkward, not fun and it makes us look bad to others.

It's nice to be ambidexterless.  No, ambidelerious.  No, ambinefarious.  No, that ain't right, either.  Or left.  Or whatever.  ???

I practice with both hands.  And both hands at the same time.

Time for me to shut up now.....
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 17, 2010, 08:59:38 PM
.454 Ruger Alaskan in one hand; .44 Ruger Super Blackhawk in the other.     :D  I'm gonna get a matching pair.    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: tracker on November 17, 2010, 09:00:32 PM

A good friend of mine who was a Neurologist described a young female patient of his who was asked by him if she were right or left handed: she replied, "I am even."
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 17, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
 ;D    ;D    ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 17, 2010, 09:07:09 PM
I did pocket carry the Ruger Alaskan 454 once, :o from the house to my range ;D about 150 feet, had to pull my pants up about four times. ;D ;D
  So I guess you can pocket carry anything anything you have a mind to.

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 17, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
I do have a belt holster for the .454 Ruger Alaskan and that's very comfortable to wear; would wear a jacket though, when carrying.    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: 08055 on November 17, 2010, 10:35:43 PM
Primary   ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Cliff on November 18, 2010, 09:54:12 AM
G19 IWB strong side and R9 front pocket in pocket holster.  Then I pray to never you either
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: birdman on November 18, 2010, 03:26:17 PM
     I'd give my right arm to be ambidexterous. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Reinz on November 18, 2010, 03:54:23 PM
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.454 Ruger Alaskan in one hand; .44 Ruger Super Blackhawk in the other.     :D  I'm gonna get a matching pair.    ;)

Now that is how I picture you KJ - Gunfighter style, one 454 Alaskan in each hand blazin' away.   ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 18, 2010, 03:58:29 PM
kj's a spittin image of John Wayne.  ;D ;D

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Reinz on November 18, 2010, 04:08:08 PM
Then he will get another Mare's leg and be spinning both of them at once with the reins in his mouth.  ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 19, 2010, 08:00:18 PM
A pair of Mare's.  Hmmmmm!    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kcub on November 20, 2010, 01:05:12 AM
that's only legal in Utah
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 20, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
I guess I won't be legal, then!    ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 21, 2010, 03:23:04 PM
They will make a special exemption for you. ;D ;D

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 21, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
Oh, I'm sure!    ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 21, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
If a Sheriff who lost his job and is now a convicted Felon can run for Sheriff again anything is possible here in NC. :o

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 21, 2010, 04:01:31 PM
You may have a point!    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 22, 2010, 08:17:36 AM
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John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 22, 2010, 08:35:57 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Reinz on November 22, 2010, 05:35:13 PM
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If a Sheriff who lost his job and is now a convicted Felon can run for Sheriff again anything is possible here in NC. :o

John

Wouldn't that be kind of hard to do if by law a convicted felon can no longer TOUCH a firearm?
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 22, 2010, 05:48:57 PM
One would think so but here is the whole story of this former NC sheriff.

Gerald Hege (born 1948 in Davidson County, NC) was the controversial sheriff of Davidson County, North Carolina. A veteran of the Vietnam War, he became famous for his highly eccentric behavior, his internationally-known television show, and eventually for the charges of corruption that led to his resignation. He is a Republican, and former head of the Davidson County Republican Party. Hege's management style as head of the Davidson County Republican Party sparked a rift that nearly split county Republicans.
Gerald Hege was elected sheriff in 1994 by a margin of 261 votes. One of his better known campaign slogans was "When I am elected Sheriff, I will wear a uniform every day and there will be no deals for anybody." After his election, all Davidson County sheriff's cars were fitted with a front license plate proclaiming "NO DEALS" in large block letters.
His personal patrol vehicle was a 1995 Chevrolet Impala with a Chevrolet Corvette engine and nitrous oxide tanks. His department lost its insurance coverage when he boasted that he had driven the vehicle at speeds of up to 140 mph. The car was referred to as "The Spider Car" because of a custom paint job featuring a Black Widow Spider and the letters "DDT." The windows of this and all other patrol cars of the force were tinted dark black.
Hege took Buford Pusser and Joe Arpaio as role models. Hege ordered all deputies to dress in paramilitary fatigues and combat boots; Hege dressed this way himself, despite the tradition of business attire for Davidson County sheriffs. Hege reinstuted the use of chain gang prisoner labor. He also removed the television sets and books (except for the Bible) from the county jail. (In a sign of things to come, Hege made sure the televisions were removed in full view of the local news media.) The jail was repainted in pink with weeping blue teddy bears. Prisoners also wore color coordinated jumpsuits to identify their offense: Blue for misdemeanors, green for sex offenders, and orange for felons. The jumpsuits were striped in the old fashioned manner as opposed to the modern solid color. Hege carried a Heckler & Koch MP5 instead of a service revolver. The sheriff also kept the robes of eight former Ku Klux Klan members whom he claimed he had convinced to retire. Hege also claimed that Mafia hitmen had a bounty on his head, as he interrupted the flow of drugs through Davidson County. These claims could not be verified.
As Hege's national fame grew, he became the star of a Court TV program titled "Inside Cell Block F." The show was filmed inside the jail, and the inmates were the studio audience. In addition, Hege appeared on "Larry King Live," "20/20" and "America's Most Wanted," as well as other programs. Rumours circulated that Hege intended to run for governor of North Carolina, though Hege denied these rumours.
After 9/11, a Christmas card sent out by the Sheriff featured him in the desert wearing a black jumpsuit, with a bloody sword and the severed head of Osama bin Laden with the title "Happy Ramadan." This incident sparked statewide controversy and an ACLU investigation.
Ostensibly to raise money for charity, Hege created a line of merchandise centered on his public persona. Hege merchandise items included posters, die-cast "spider cars," action figures, coffee mugs and barbecue sauce. All revenue from this merchandise and his TV appearances was donated to charity.[citation needed]
As years passed, charges of nepotism, financial irregularities, and mismanagement began to surface. On September 15, 2003, Hege was charged with 15 felonies and suspended from office. The charges were five counts of embezzlement by a public officer, five counts of obtaining property by false pretenses, two counts of obstruction of justice, one count of endeavoring to intercept oral communication, one count of aiding and abetting to endeavor to intercept oral communication and one count of aiding and abetting to obtain property by false pretenses.
Despite Hege's "No Deals" slogan, he eventually accepted a plea agreement.
Hege remains a very controversial figure since his departure from office. One of Hege's sons (Gerald Hege, Jr.) ran for the office of Sheriff of Davidson County, but was defeated in the May 2006 Republican primary.
The former sheriff had 3 years of probation, which ended on May 17, 2007 at 12:00 AM.
In September 2009, Gerald Hege again jumped into the political arena, posting signs and campaigning for the office of Sheriff of Davidson County. On Feb. 9, 2010, he officially filed to run for his previously held job.[1] Had Hege been elected to office, being a convicted felon, he would not have been allowed to carry a gun, although he had claimed he would work to have that privilege restored. The North Carolina Supreme Court's ruling in Britt v. State, No. 488A07 on 8/28/2009 overturned the law prohibiting convicted non-violent felons from firearm possession.
However, all of these issues became moot when Hege lost the May 2010 Republican Primary to incumbent David Grice by almost 6,000 votes. Grice carried all 43 districts in Davidson County. Hege has said that he plans to run again, although with the November 2010 passage of an amendment to the North Carolina state constitution that bars convicted felons from serving as sheriff this is unlikely.

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 22, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
WELL, HE LOST!    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 22, 2010, 05:58:32 PM
He lost but was allowed to run(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/shocked.gif) thats what boggles the mind.
 He can not run again because of the November 2010 passage of an amendment to the North Carolina state constitution that bars convicted felons from serving as sheriff this is unlikely.

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 22, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
The issues became, moot, though, as the article explains, when Hege lost!    ;)  And with the passage of the ammendment to the NC constitution, as the article says, it is unlikely he will run again.    :)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: yankee2500 on November 22, 2010, 07:22:11 PM
Not unlikely he will run, he can't run. ;D
  The amendment to the North Carolina state constitution bars convicted felons from serving as sheriff.

John
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 22, 2010, 07:28:11 PM
Yes!  That is exactly what the ammendment to the NC constitution states.  You have it nailed!    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kcub on November 23, 2010, 08:50:35 PM
If Hege could carry an R9, would he carry it primary or as backup?
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: kjtrains on November 24, 2010, 03:58:18 PM
He carries two, as primary!    ;D  And that's a fictional answer!    ;)
Title: Re: Do you use your R9 as primary or as backup?
Post by: Reinz on November 24, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
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He carries two, as primary!    ;D  And that's a fictional answer!    ;)

He has to carry at least two, since he filed the sears to go full auto.  Being so used to that MP5 and all.


fictional answer of course