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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: margator on September 10, 2011, 02:28:11 PM

Title: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
Saw a BNIB stealth at a gunshow...not a dealer but a private seller. The gun appeared to be never fired and in perfect condtion EXCEPT the slide seemed to be a little faded compared to the black frame. The Deer Park was stamped properly but on the right side of the frame where it says Rohrbaugh 9 it was barely visible. I believe Serial # was R1819. They were asking $900 which is obviously a great price but I was scared off by the issues I mentioned. Would like any feedback possible from u R9 pro's as to what might account for these issues....thx!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: tracker on September 10, 2011, 03:25:37 PM

Just a guess but from my limited experience it sounds like the slide may have been refinished; it probably isn't holster wear.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 10, 2011, 03:36:29 PM
Maybe it's an aftermarket Stealth with a poor finish job on the slide. It would take a call to Maria to find out if the Serial number is assigned to a Stealth or a two tone.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: kjtrains on September 10, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
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Maybe it's an aftermarket Stealth with a poor finish job on the slide. It would take a call to Maria to find out if the Serial number is assigned to a Stealth or a two tone.

Yep!  I agree.  Call the source for information.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: tracker on September 10, 2011, 05:10:56 PM

Monday may be too late but I think I would pass anyway.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 05:17:32 PM
Thx guys...gonna pass! Rather pay a few hundred more knowing what Im getting! It just wasnt right!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: Douglas on September 10, 2011, 05:23:25 PM
Good call, 'cause that's the serial number of my gun.  :o

Edited to add for clarity: it's not for sale, it's not at a gun show, it's right here in my pocket.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 06:20:55 PM
Actually it may have been 1619 now that I think about it....my best guess is that the slide was refinished...if I hadnt already had one I probably would have bought it!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: tracker on September 10, 2011, 06:41:24 PM

Much better to have a known known instead of a known unknown with a question mark behind it.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
Agreed Tracker!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: kjtrains on September 10, 2011, 07:29:49 PM
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Thx guys...gonna pass! Rather pay a few hundred more knowing what Im getting! It just wasnt right!

You did good, margator, in doing the passing.  Good to go with your instinct.  Excellent.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 10, 2011, 07:40:07 PM
I've see a couple stealths in that serial range that were as you described and new at the time.  That serial range was near the beginning of the stealth and some of those slides appeared somewhat "chalky" the best I can describe.  I've also seen and owned a few that had shallow engraving.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 07:49:20 PM
Yes...chalky is a ggod description. Any idea what causes it and the faded stamping issue? If u owned a few did they function fine or was something just not right? Thx!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 10, 2011, 09:37:27 PM
I have no idea what caused it.  I would guess that the first ones were a different type finish than what most have been done since then, but that's only a guess.

The light stamping had no effect on the guns operation.  They worked fine.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 10, 2011, 09:52:34 PM
Did it look like this?  This was one of the very first ones.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/R9STEALTH1.jpg)

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=R9S;action=display;num=1146310803;start=0#0
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 10, 2011, 09:53:52 PM
There you go, head back to the show tomorrow and jump on that deal if it hasn't already sold. :D
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: tracker on September 10, 2011, 10:09:44 PM

It could be a collectible like R176.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: kjtrains on September 10, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
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Did it look like this?  This was one of the very first ones.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/R9STEALTH1.jpg)

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=R9S;action=display;num=1146310803;start=0#0

That doesn't look bad at all.    :)
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 11:15:35 PM
YES.....exactly!!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 10, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
i can get it for $800.....or a new serial # for $1100. Gotta decide if it's worth it to save 3 bills......???
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: tracker on September 10, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
Go for it. One suggesiton: take your bore light and check the barrel. This is not easy on an R9 but I won't buy a gun, new or used, without a look.  
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 11, 2011, 12:07:15 AM
Absolutely....and yeah its not that ez with no slide stop!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 11, 2011, 04:01:26 PM
Went back and got it today for $800! definitely brand new...feel pretty good about it and will take it apart and see what we got later!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 11, 2011, 04:14:45 PM
Great buy, Congrats. :D
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: kjtrains on September 11, 2011, 04:20:28 PM
Congrats!  Margator.    ;D
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 11, 2011, 04:31:20 PM
Thx guys.....will report back after the exam!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 11, 2011, 05:32:57 PM
Opened her up....brand new....cleaned her up and lubed her and will take her out for a date this week! All in all i feel goood!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: xaman on September 11, 2011, 06:34:16 PM
Congrats!  That's a steal stealth :)
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 11, 2011, 07:34:12 PM
if it fires....I did good :D
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: Douglas on September 11, 2011, 10:26:15 PM
Woo hoo!

Nice pick, congratulations. -And very glad to hear it wasn't a counterfeit version of my pup.  :)
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 12, 2011, 12:21:43 AM
Douglas....you wont believe my serial#.....1818.....gotcha by 1!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: JohnBT on September 12, 2011, 03:59:02 PM
That's funny.

I don't know about the black R9 finish, but the black finishes on my CZ-75B Military and BHP MkIII get some dull discoloration if I spray them with gunscrubber. A little oil or grease restores the color and shine.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: Douglas on September 12, 2011, 06:17:24 PM
That is something huh?

Small world on the web. What state are you in? I'm in NY, not too far from the factory actually.

Best of luck with the pup. I hope you carry it in good health and may you never have to fire it in anger.

Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 13, 2011, 12:11:11 AM
I am in Boca Raton Florida which is the southern most point of Long Island ;D (I told that to Rudy Giuliani when I met him but he didn't think it was funny!) Anyway....somehow that pup ended up down here....this is my second one.....it interested me cause it was a lil different and a really good price. Taking it out tomorrow...got my gold dots ready....cant wait!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 13, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
Hope you have a good range session. Look forward to the report.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 13, 2011, 12:52:35 AM
Will report back tomorrow!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: kjtrains on September 13, 2011, 08:55:00 AM
Looking forward to the report, margator!     :D
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 13, 2011, 07:43:45 PM
Just got back from the range....all went well! The pup's got a lil kick. Just a quick question for the resident experts....My first pup was like a 58xx serial # and the one I just bought was a 18xx. Did Rohrbaugh change any of the internal parts over the last say 5 yrs.  Or so? Is there anything drastically different on the Stealth other than the grips which are a bit different......thx!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 13, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
Glad all went well.
  As far as changes in the last 5 years I would think there were some but Corey would probably be able to give you a positive yes or no.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: Douglas on September 13, 2011, 09:51:48 PM
Glad to hear it went well.

Just to add to the data pile, what do you prefer to feed your pup?
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 13, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
Speer gold dots and Winchester silver tips ONLY!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: Brenden on September 13, 2011, 10:54:08 PM
As far as changes made within that serial range,no frame changes that I know of.

There possibly may be the springs that are different,both recoil and mag springs..

Glad to hear that you found a a Pup of a different color.. 8)
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 14, 2011, 11:13:58 AM
Thx! something a bit different...seems to kick a lil more than my last one which is why I inquired about any possible changes/modifications that might contribute to that.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 14, 2011, 10:03:34 PM
Doesn't seem likely it would kick more, you may want to change the recoil spring and see if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: tracker on September 14, 2011, 10:19:25 PM
One thing that was visually different on the upgrade when I sent back my cracked slide was a beefed up extractor. FWIW, I am much happier with the changes ,whatever they were, from a performance point of view. It has been flawless but many here have experienced the same good consistency since 2004 without any upgrades. It seems that there were some issues in the 500-800 S/N range that have been worked out since that time. This was also about the same time frame as the move to Deer Park, which may or not be related.
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 15, 2011, 09:30:31 AM
I'll have to shoot a lil more this weekend....put my VZ's on and Im ready to rock. It may just be that I had not shot a pup for awhile and I fired it after shooting my EMP which is pretty mild! Let u know and thx!
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: yankee2500 on September 15, 2011, 10:24:06 AM
I think the long layoff would be the most likely answer. ;D
Title: Re: H-E-L-P Please!!
Post by: margator on September 15, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
The layoff was only about a month but shooting after the EMP likely exaggerated the kick!