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Title: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: scaatylobo on April 15, 2010, 05:51:03 PM: I was getting a bit scared after reading all the horror storys about dissembly of the R-9 and then the even worse re-assembly.So after tackling the task I am wondering how much real life handgun shooting and cleaning was really involved in all the whining that I have read.Idid clean my pistol yesterday and it literally fell apart,then took all of a minute to re-assemble !!.I then spoke to Maria at Rohrbaugh and she agreed with me as to the ease.I had to post this as I am a fairly frequent shooter and am familiar with many different firearms and was wondering if there was a disparity on this forum with actual shooters that clean their own ?.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: tracker on April 15, 2010, 08:15:31 PM: Welcome, scaatylobo. Ease, or the lack of, in assembly and disassembly is a very subjective issue. I have always had the impression that forum members are sincere and tell us like they feel it. I am happy that it comes easy for you to clean the R9; it can only enhance your opinion and confidence in the weapon.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: yankee2500 on April 15, 2010, 08:44:16 PM: Welcome scaatylobo, I do not find the R9 to be difficult to take down or reassemble but it is not as easy as my P380.

John
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: Richard S on April 15, 2010, 09:00:43 PM: Now . . . for those who want some real enjoyment in the fine art of fieldstripping and reassembly, try one of these gems:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/fn-browning191132acp.jpg)

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Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: kjtrains on April 15, 2010, 09:22:11 PM: scaatylobo. I do not find it difficult either to take down or reassemble the R9. I don't use any tools, and just follow the owner's manual.

Glad also that it's easy for you. Makes it all that more enjoyable to do the cleaning. :)
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: kjtrains on April 15, 2010, 09:29:53 PM: Quote
Now . . . for those who want some real enjoyment in the fine art of fieldstripping and reassembly, try one of these gems:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/fn-browning191132acp.jpg)

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Richard. As you might recall, I have one of these, a Browning, Model 1922, .32 caliber long, and while field stripping, twisted the barrel extension, it flew off, and lost the
spring and slide extension catch to hold on the barrel extension). You sent me a vendor's name that sold parts for these.

I ordered the part and it worked. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: scaatylobo on April 15, 2010, 10:03:13 PM: Thank you all,I must have read the weenie threads as it was making me change my Depends just thinking about cleaning her - till I actually did.just ordered 4 more springs [ now have 6 ] and 3 more mags too :-) .Now getting some good leather from a local [ Richie Leather Co ] used to work with Lou Alessi [ good guy he was !].
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: kjtrains on April 15, 2010, 10:54:32 PM: So, you make holsters! That's good to know. :)
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: tracker on April 15, 2010, 11:13:05 PM: You may have misread that, KJ. Ritchie makes holsters in Lou's old shop in Amherst N.Y.. I was fortunate to buy one of Lou's holsters a couple of years ago. He was a fine gentleman.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: kjtrains on April 15, 2010, 11:19:43 PM: Thanks, tracker. I wondered about that. Where have you been, anyway? Hope everything is OK. You haven't been posting as much.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: tracker on April 15, 2010, 11:21:54 PM: It's hard to get a word in edgewise; decided to give it a little rest.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: kjtrains on April 15, 2010, 11:23:35 PM: Well, sometimes it happens that way. I was concerned, though.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: tracker on April 15, 2010, 11:25:23 PM: Thank you, I appreciate the kind thought and hope all is well with you.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: sslater on April 16, 2010, 12:53:15 AM: Okay Richard. I have to ask - what is that gun? I don't recognize it.

Steve
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: scaatylobo on April 16, 2010, 08:21:00 AM: Quote
Okay Richard. I have to ask - what is that gun? I don't recognize it.

Steve
Not mine,but I believe its an Astra.And that was correct inasmuch as I do not make holsters [ wish I had started LONG ago ].I am dissapointed with the 'new' Alessi holsters and that is why I am going the "Richie Holster" route.Spoke to him and he EDC's a Rohrbaugh and will be making me a few sheaths for mine.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: yankee2500 on April 16, 2010, 10:40:17 AM: scaatylobo, are you from the WNY area? I thought maybe you were if you met Lou, I met him many years ago, great holster maker and fine man. I spent 50 + yrs in Orchard Park.

John
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: Richard S on April 16, 2010, 10:41:14 AM: Quote
Okay Richard. I have to ask - what is that gun? I don't recognize it.

Steve

Steve:

It's the FN Browning Model 1922, and as KJ will probably agree, it has springs just looking for the chance to launch themselves into space along with various and sundry other small bits and pieces. Here is a parts diagram:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/FNBrowningM1922Parts.gif)

The one I own bears stamp marks showing that it was issued to the German Luftwaffe in WWII.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: scaatylobo on April 16, 2010, 11:22:18 AM: Quote
scaatylobo, are you from the WNY area? I thought maybe you were if you met Lou, I met him many years ago, great holster maker and fine man. I spent 50 + yrs in Orchard Park.

John
Was born and lived in NYC till I was 25 then moved to Western NY and got 'on the job' in 1982 till I left IOD and now disability retired with 26 years as LEO.Lou was a class act and a GREAT holster maker,I have seen and used many holsters by most makers and he is the one I will miss.I expect Skip at Richie Holster to take his place as they used to be partners and Skip has 'the touch'.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: Richard S on April 16, 2010, 07:16:27 PM: Quote
It's hard to get a word in edgewise; decided to give it a little rest.

Tracker:

"Word in edgewise?" From what I used to hear, you pilots of the A-4 Skyhawk ("Heinemann's Hot-Rod") could put a Zuni rocket edgewise through the door of a jungle hut if you chose to do so. 8)
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: sslater on April 16, 2010, 10:41:29 PM: Richard,
Thanks for the FN1922 picture. Your example looks a bit more 'polished' than the average ones I turned up in my quick Google search.
According to Ol' Army Joel's Military Collectibles http://www.olarmyjoel.com/Virtual%20Arms%20Room/browning%201922.htm, The Model 22 is derived from the FN Model 10, the gun that was used to assassinate Arch Duke Ferdinand.
So your Model 22 is the son of the gun that started World War One. Bad pun! ::)

According to the web site, Model 22s can be had for about $300. If I was going to strip one of those beauties down, I'd want to do it in a sandblasting cabinet. That way those teeny little springs, and pins and things wouldn't disappear into dark corners of the basement....

Steve
Title: re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: tracker on April 16, 2010, 10:52:32 PM: Thanks, Richard; you are very perceptive; however, the all time master of the 5" Zuni rocket was LCDR. T.R. Swartz from VA 76 off the Bonnie Dick. A MIG 17 was on his tail over Kep airfield when he went into a high G barrel roll and quickly converted a 6 o'clock position into a 12 o'clock slot. He took dead aim with iron sights, maybe kicked a little rudder, and sent the Zuni head straight up the tailpipe of the Mig. That happened on May 1, 1967.
Title: Re: Man up = PLEASE
Post by: Richard S on April 17, 2010, 08:50:25 AM: Steve:

That's some good research on the M1922. Here is a link to the "Cruffler" review, if you have not previously seen it:

http://www.cruffler.com/historic-may01.html

Only a relatively few were plated -- most of those being earmarked for Luftwaffe officers, I understand. Once Belgium had fallen to the Nazi invasion in WWII, FN was required to produce the 1922 in great numbers.

The Model 1922 is a striker-fired weapon which I do not consider to be one of John Moses Browning's finer designs -- regardless of the vast numbers produced over the years. The little striker spring and its assembly sit exposed when the slide is removed, and a simple sneeze can send it across the room. I would hate to have to work on the 1922 in field conditions and would be willing to bet that those who did would resort to dunking it in gasoline and then giving it a few squirts of spindle oil rather than going through the fieldstripping and reassembly exercise.

Thank the Lord, Browning did find the time and inspiration to give us the Model 1911 between designing the "10" and tweaking it into the "22"!