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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Cleaning and Maintenance of the R-9 => Topic started by: thor447 on February 01, 2012, 12:23:40 AM
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Info is from Grant Cunningham. One bad mf'er when it comes to revolvers. He has some good info on his site, and this might be close to the top when it comes to dispelling a few preconceived notions I had. Read and be enlightened my friends!
http://grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
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EXCELLENT! A lot of info entirely new to me. Thanks!
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Good stuff from Grant. I've been on his waiting list for two years to work his magic on my 3" Colt Detective Special. It shouldn't be much longer.
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One paragraph of Grant Cunningham's article deserves to be inscribed in stone:
WD-40: WD-40 was never meant to be a lubricant - it was designed as a moisture displacer. It's far too light for any load protection, has incredibly poor corrosion resistance, contains zero boundary lubricants, and rapidly oxidizes to form a sickly yellow varnish (hint: this is not good for delicate internal lockwork.) There are those who will defend this stuff vehemently, but then again you can still find people who think smokeless powder is a passing fad. Just. Don't.
Amen!
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One paragraph of Grant Cunningham's article deserves to be inscribed in stone:
WD-40: WD-40 was never meant to be a lubricant - it was designed as a moisture displacer. It's far too light for any load protection, has incredibly poor corrosion resistance, contains zero boundary lubricants, and rapidly oxidizes to form a sickly yellow varnish (hint: this is not good for delicate internal lockwork.) There are those who will defend this stuff vehemently, but then again you can still find people who think smokeless powder is a passing fad. Just. Don't.
Amen!
Agreed. WD-40 actually stands for water displacement - 40th attempt. It's definitely not a lubricant.
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WD-40 comes up in almost every lubrication thread on any gun forum in existence. No it's not a good lubricant.
I have found though that if people use other lubricants in conjunction with WD-40, they often avoid having it get gummy or turn into varnish.
So if someone sprays their gun down with WD-40 and they wipe it, and then they put some Break Free CLP or something on the rails or in some places, that oil tends to migrate around and it seems to prevent the WD-40 from getting gummy. Or maybe they spray with WD-40, but as a final step they wipe the gun down with RemOil or something.
There are plenty of people who use WD-40 and they never experience a problem with it.
I'm not saying it's a good lubricant, I actually switched to Lubriplate mentioned in Grant's article and I think it works great.
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Grant also warns people about how corrosive chlorinated esters can be, but a lot of gun owners are still using products with chlorine in it - like EEZOX and WeaponShield, or carb cleaner, engine degreasers and brake cleaners.
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FOUND a source: After reading about the stuff Grant Cunningham reccomends and shopping for it all over the web, finding it only if big buckets, I finally found a great source. Some guy bought tubs of the stuff and packaged it in normal, easy to use and affordable kits. Wish i had thought of it. HEre is the link: http://www.lubrikit.com/ The best deal is the Magnum Kit, for $29. I bought three (for familiy and friends) for total of only $65.
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Nice! Thanks for the link.
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Yeah, wd40 will eventually gum up. I've been using this grease less spray... It's actually a lubricant and cleaner. It's called safari charlie gun lube, have any of you used it yet? it has some pretty good reviews:
http://www.superslickstuff.com/lubricant/Safari-Charlie-Gun-Lube.html (http://www.superslickstuff.com/lubricant/Safari-Charlie-Gun-Lube.html)
Just pointing out a good spray alternative in case you are interested.
For those who have used it, let me know what you think!
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TooQuick. Welcome to the Forum and thanks for the link to Safari-Charlie. Again welcome and enjoy the Forum.
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TooQuick
Welcome to the forum.
Interisting gun lubricant. I may have to try it out.
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Hey, thank you for the warm welcome ;D
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FOUND a source: After reading about the stuff Grant Cunningham reccomends and shopping for it all over the web, finding it only if big buckets, I finally found a great source. Some guy bought tubs of the stuff and packaged it in normal, easy to use and affordable kits. Wish i had thought of it. HEre is the link: http://www.lubrikit.com/ The best deal is the Magnum Kit, for $29. I bought three (for familiy and friends) for total of only $65.
Thanks for the link. I was looking for this recently and had the same results as you; big buckets.
Again, thank you.
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In defense of EEZOX, Larry Seecamp recommends and uses it for his pistols. The percentage of chlorinated esters is apparently too small to be of concern is what I've been told. I've been using it on the R9, the LWS and the Boberg with excellent results and it simply washes grease, oil, carbon/copper away. So far I've continued with more traditional cleaning agents on my larger pistols.
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+1 to what backupr9 says.
I've used EEZOX for years with excellent results. I've also posted a photo of a rust test of EEZOX and several name brand C-L-P formulations. This was a commercial rust test sponsored by the manufacturer of EEZOX at least 5 years ago. There may be new products on the market, such as Frog-lube, that do a good job, too, but this photo is pretty convincing when it comes to which "potions" prevent rust.
Haven't posted any Photobucket photos since the Forum has been re-formatted, but here goes:
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/sluggo24/eezox-rust-test.jpg)
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John Deere sells a Green colored NLGI #0 Grease
in huge drums as well as (I think) 14 oz tubes. Any
local John Deere dealer should be able to order it.
Then their is a 10 oz tube of motor assembly grease
http://www.lubriplate.com/webstore/detail.aspx?ID=17 (http://www.lubriplate.com/webstore/detail.aspx?ID=17)
I think this 14oz can of rifle grease is also the correct
grease:http://www.lubriplate.com/webstore/detail.aspx?ID=120 (http://www.lubriplate.com/webstore/detail.aspx?ID=120)
These are probably much better deals than a small syringe full of grease.
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I ordered 14 Ounces of Green Grease from:
GreenPartStore
110 S 2nd Street
Watseka, IL., 60970
1(815)432-6319
Stocking Unit Number: SKU# AN102562
14 ounces should last several lifetimes
and costs less than a syringe full.
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Bump
Saw guest here
+1 on link + thread
Have seen pics of test before, gonna ck both later.
http://grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
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used slick 50 one lube recently no problems 100rds
after next deep clean frog lube -test