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Miscellaneous => The Water Cooler -- General Discussions => Topic started by: Richard S on September 24, 2012, 09:11:37 PM
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Here is another discussion of that old question -- Which ONE gun would you select in an "Armegeddon" scenario? Questions to be considered would be how much ammunition could you carry, what would be the gun's effective range, how many uses would it have in a survival situation, what about concealment considerations, how reliable would it be in extreme field conditions, how likely would it be that you could "scrounge" ammunition in the rubble, etc., etc., etc.
For me, I think it would be narrowed down to four choices, listed here in no particular order -- (1) 12-guage tactical pump shotgun with folding stock; (2) pump carbine chambered for .357 Magnum; (2) 1911 chambered for .45 ACP; or (4) pocket pistol chambered for 9mm Parabellum.
Remember that under the hypothetical situation you can have only one gun and its ammunition.
It's a difficult choice, isn't it?
http://www.americanrifleman.org/GalleryItem.aspx?cid=22&gid=198&id=1770
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You are quite right Richard, a very difficult decision.
Thinking back to Katrina, how LE stripped guns away from honest citizens; I believe I would have to lean towards a concealable weapon.
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Here is another discussion of that old question -- Which ONE gun would you select in an "Armegeddon" scenario? Questions to be considered would be how much ammunition could you carry, what would be the gun's effective range, how many uses would it have in a survival situation, what about concealment considerations, how reliable would it be in extreme field conditions, how likely would it be that you could "scrounge" ammunition in the rubble, etc., etc., etc.
For me, I think it would be narrowed down to four choices, listed here in no particular order -- (1) 12-guage tactical pump shotgun with folding stock; (2) pump carbine chambered for .357 Magnum; (2) 1911 chambered for .45 ACP; or (4) pocket pistol chambered for 9mm Parabellum.
Remember that under the hypothetical situation you can have only one gun and its ammunition.
It's a difficult choice, isn't it?
http://www.americanrifleman.org/GalleryItem.aspx?cid=22&gid=198&id=1770
Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle.... ;)
http://ruger.com/products/gunsiteScoutRifle/models.html
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Circumstances alter responses. If no danger from human contact, in this area a .22 rifle would be adequate, even for deer, light, easy to carry with strong likelihood for finding available ammo. Even if human threat is involved, still to be considered if only threat from one or two individuals. In the Northwest, grizzly activity to be considered and a larger caliber might be wise. Altho a short barreled pistol is the best response to close grizzly threat, a rifle would be a better choice for multiple uses.
If human combat likely in groups, I'll stick to my AR15...lot of ammo around for that also and will serve for hunting and defense although in that scenario the best defense is to remain invisible or to join a large organized group and hope it doesn't turn on you. If a Katrina type issue, the AR if in populated area, and perhaps a compact .45 if only the occasional threat is likely. I wouldn't like to depend on a short barrel 9mm in a disaster situation...too limiting in terms of response to various situations.
If only one weapon of any sort is allowed, in the woods I'd have to stick with a knife for survival...with that one can form other weapons of a more primitive nature...really really hard to whittle a bow with a Colt .45.
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Backup,
Here is my two cents. Ruger 10/22 with Tactical Innovations 1:9 twist barrel with all of the Aguila 60 grain SSS ammo I could haul. This ammo out of this barrel hits hard right on target out to 100 yards. It will do much more than you would think. You can also run standard ammo but might have a lead build up hyper velocity ammo.
Robar233
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Richard,
My apology, this was your question, I looked in the wrong spot.
:( Robar233
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If there were only one I would have to choose the Glock 17 with extra loaded magazines including a few 33 rounders.
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This is an extremely difficult decision!
Depends on the situation!
AR-15?
Or
M&P 15-22 with sound suppressor?
Or
M&P 9?
Or
All 3. Hard to decide!
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The disaster scenario calls for keeping it simple. If I had to pick one .22 it would be the Marlin 795 SS. Even though I possess some AR-15s they are the last thing I would take packing because of the maintenance and disassembly/reassembly challenge. Current S&Ws would not be at the top of my list, either, but to each his own. I would tack on a Mini-14 in the 5.56 category.
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I agree there would be different "ideal" guns for me depending on the scenario, but in a completely random SHTF situation, I would probably grab my Remington 870 (I would already have my R9 in my pocket and an extra mag on my belt so that would be a bonus). In my opinion, a shotgun offers the best versatility of all firearms in that it is able to fire everything from nonlethal bean bags to slugs to fancy-pants Dragon's Breath flame rounds. Yes, it doesn't have the range or accuracy of a rifle or the portability of a pistol, but in a defensive or hunting situation, I feel it would serve my needs adequately. That and I just like my 870.
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Oh, you mean if Obama wins? My first choice is attached, but if it's still in development the FN Five-Seven would be a good lightweight choice.
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If I need to conceal it, a Glock 17.
If I don't, an AR-15.
Essentially, I'd be looking for what I would most likely be able to scrounge ammo and parts for.
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I think the one gun that does the most is the SHOT gun.
The Versamax tactical can take down everything from Antelope to Zombies, and I think it is as effective at killing small game as a .22 , better at taking fowl. And generally speaking it's a better SD weapon in most scenarios -IMO. Yes I know that sitting in a lone cabin with nothing but 1000 meters of short grass in every direction makes a nice scenario for a long range rifle...
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If I need to conceal it, a Glock 17.
If I don't, an AR-15.
Essentially, I'd be looking for what I would most likely be able to scrounge ammo and parts for.
This (-though in my case it's a G19.)
The U.S. military's primary small arms ammunitions are 5.56mm and 9mm. The same is true for the militaries of our continental neighbors and our European allies. The primary small arms ammuninitions of the largest police department in the nation (my local) are 9mm and 5.56mm.
That's why IMHO, those are what I'd expect to be around in my region in a disaster, and those are what I should be able to feed my own tools with.
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Here is my son's idea of his disaster gun! :)
A Nerf dart gun and a back pack full of darts.
(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/Wolverine_450/273BD60B-7F83-405E-97A9-63EA9EB50BD3-2082-0000026F9F30D4B1.jpg)
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Here is my son's idea of his disaster gun! :)
A Nerf dart gun and a back pack full of darts.
(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/Wolverine_450/273BD60B-7F83-405E-97A9-63EA9EB50BD3-2082-0000026F9F30D4B1.jpg)
That might be the ideal setup, reusable ammo, light weight, non detectable by metal detectors, just dip the darts in Clorox and shoot for the eyes. ;D ;D
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...just dip the darts in Clorox and shoot for the eyes. ;D ;D
I love it!! :o