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Miscellaneous => Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling => Topic started by: Andy2337 on January 10, 2013, 09:46:23 PM

Title: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Andy2337 on January 10, 2013, 09:46:23 PM: Less than a 100 rounds have been run thru this gun. The gun has not been fired following a trip to the factory for adjustments and a spring replacement. Came back from the factory with new padding in the case. Asking $1800. Please send PM if you would like more information.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Chief-USN on January 11, 2013, 06:50:22 AM: Why are you calling this an early R9s ? Does it have a low serial number? Carbon Fiber Grips? Etc..... Cannot really tell from the pic. What about it pushes the price so high?

Chief
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Faawrenchbndr on January 11, 2013, 09:02:10 AM: That one is a BLUE carbon fiber grip model.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Chief-USN on January 11, 2013, 10:02:51 AM: We have seen those go for alot less than $1800 here.

Chief
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Faawrenchbndr on January 11, 2013, 12:49:09 PM: Very true,........it's the only "special feature"
I can spot. Seller's choice as to listing price.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: wildmanwill on January 11, 2013, 12:56:26 PM: Hopefully the poster, and new member, returns soon with some additional details as far as serial number range, manufacturing location, etc.

He stated it has been returned to the factory, hopefully its not a "deerdale"... hard to tell a whole lot from the picture.

Maybe the return trip to the factory is considered a "special feature."
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: BlueC2 on January 11, 2013, 02:32:17 PM: It also appears to be an R9 not an R9s as indicated in the thread title. Hard to tell from the picture though.

-Ryan

EDIT: The seller has confirmed that that gun does have sights and is marked "R9s"
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: tracker on January 11, 2013, 04:38:24 PM: Excellent point, Ryan; there are a few who don't grasp the distinction between the two.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Faawrenchbndr on January 11, 2013, 04:50:42 PM: Quote from: tracker on January 11, 2013, 04:38:24 PM

Excellent point, Ryan; there are a few who don't grasp the distinction between the two.

I sent an e-mail with a few questions earlier.........
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Andy2337 on January 12, 2013, 09:11:30 PM: It is an R9s and has sights. It has the R9s on the receiver. It has blue fiber grips. The serial number is under 200. Seams to me you guys like holding down the value of your own firearms, by not assisting in others getting top dollar out of theirs!
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: tracker on January 12, 2013, 09:47:33 PM: Why was it returned to the factory?
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: wildmanwill on January 12, 2013, 10:29:05 PM: Quote from: Andy2337 on January 12, 2013, 09:11:30 PM
Seams to me you guys like holding down the value of your own firearms, by not assisting in others getting top dollar out of theirs!
Did you check to see what other similar firearms were selling for on other (auction) sites besides this forum, prior to joining to list your gun for sale? I feel that "we" in no way hold down the value of our firearms, but that unfortunately the market determines what people are willing to pay. Of course you are welcome to ask whatever you want for your firearm. Keep in mind too that most of here have at least one of these guns, so it can make sales here a little more challenging.

It sounds like you have a nice piece or Rohrbaugh history with a low serial number gun and I genuinely wish you all the best with your sale.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Faawrenchbndr on January 12, 2013, 10:38:30 PM: Five or six VERY good pictures would greatly help with the sale.
I do not believe anyone is trying to de-value your or anyone's
Rohrbaugh. There are just a lot of details missing from your
listing, & the one & only pic is small and very poor in resolution.

May be VERY interested,.....but need better pics!
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Richard S on January 13, 2013, 09:17:02 AM: Andy:

First of all, welcome to the Forum.

Second, no one around here is trying to hold down the value of any R9. As noted above, a few good photographs would go a long way in facilitating your sale. Offering an early R9 or R9s for sale on this Forum could be compared to offering an F40 for sale at a meeting of the Ferrari Club of America -- the members know a lot about the subject and will have a lot of questions. One example, as noted by Tracker, is the difference between the "R9" and "R9s" engraving. The "s" engraving was originally intended to designate that the pistol had sights milled into the slide but was dropped to avoid regulatory confusion. That occurred around the time the Rohrbaugh factory moved from Farmingdale to Deer Park. A few pistols with slides bearing the "R9s" and "Farmingdale" engravings were sent in for service after the factory's move and received new slides engraved "R9" and "Deer Park." These are the so-called "Deerdales." There aren't many "Deerdales" out there and that rarity alone makes them attractive to some collectors. However, since the R9s are not issued in strict serial-number order, the only way to identify a "Deerdale" is to know its history.

Third, good luck on your sale. The blue carbon fiber grips alone have gone for $300+ around here.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Faawrenchbndr on January 13, 2013, 10:31:39 AM: Still no reply with requested info from the seller.
I out of this one,..........GLWTS.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: BlueC2 on January 13, 2013, 10:34:58 AM: Quote from: Richard S on January 13, 2013, 09:17:02 AM
A few pistols with slides bearing the "R9s" and "Farmingdale" engravings were sent in for service after the factory's move and received new slides engraved "R9" and "Deer Park." These are the so-called "Deerdales." There aren't many "Deerdales" out there and that rarity alone makes them attractive to some collectors. However, since the R9s are not issued in strict serial-number order, the only way to identify a "Deerdale" is to know its history.

Richard, I say this with all due respect to a long time forum member, but I disagree with your perceived notion that a “Deerdale” is somehow more collectable than a properly marked R9s Farmingdale.
As a Rohrbaugh collector a “Deerdale” is my own personal worst nightmare – sorry to any Deerdale owners out there. It means a gun that was at one point a Farmingdale production gun, and marked as such, was sent into the factory and was returned with a slide now marked “Deer Park” usually with the new (ugly) block text. If I wanted to I am sure I could send all my Farmingdales into the Factory for re-warranty or something and there is a good chance they would come back with new “Deer Park” slides – this is NOT what you want!
My own personal view of a collectable Rohrbaugh is as follows, with the more of the following features making it more collectable and thus more valuable:
1.   Silver Frame
2.   No R Prefix serial number – the earlier the better
3.   Slide marked “R9s” if the gun has sights
4.   Farmingdale, NY engraved on the slide
5.   Factory original Blue carbon Fiber grips
The more of these the better!
This gun appears to have 3 of the 5 criteria making it very collectable, as it is farily rare for a R-prefix gun to be marked R9s. The only guns that would be more desirable would be a silver frame or Pre R prefix gun with the same configuration, or both a silver frame, pre R prefix gun.
I think the $1,800 is a very fair price point if the gun is indeed marked Farmingdale and R9s. Good luck with the sale and as was stated above good pictures would help sell this gun.
V/R,
Ryan
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: tracker on January 13, 2013, 03:31:15 PM: With all due respect I did not read anything in Richard's post that stated or implied a "Deerdale" is more collectible than a duly certified early Farmingdale. I wish the seller all the best in his sale.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: BlueC2 on January 13, 2013, 03:55:47 PM: Quote from: tracker on January 13, 2013, 03:31:15 PM

With all due respect I did not read anything in Richard's post that stated or implied a "Deerdale" is more collectible than a duly certified early Farmingdale. I wish the seller all the best in his sale.

I used the quote feature to quote exactly what he said. Anyway, I'm not going to argue this, I was just trying to clear things up in case any new folks were reading this. The forum is a great resource but there is also a lot of miss-information that gets posted here. Please feel free to collect all the Deerdales you like.

-Ryan
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: tracker on January 13, 2013, 04:18:33 PM: I do not collect "Deerdales" but they are very reliable as a CCW.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Richard S on January 13, 2013, 05:55:35 PM: Quote from: BlueC2 on January 13, 2013, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: tracker on January 13, 2013, 03:31:15 PM

With all due respect I did not read anything in Richard's post that stated or implied a "Deerdale" is more collectible than a duly certified early Farmingdale. I wish the seller all the best in his sale.

I used the quote feature to quote exactly what he said. Anyway, I'm not going to argue this, I was just trying to clear things up in case any new folks were reading this. The forum is a great resource but there is also a lot of miss-information that gets posted here. Please feel free to collect all the Deerdales you like.

-Ryan

Ryan:

The words in my post with regard to the so-called "Deerdales" were that their "rarity alone makes them attractive to some collectors." [Emphasis added.] I did not purport to express, to use your words, a "perceived notion that a 'Deerdale' is somehow more collectable than a properly marked R9s Farmingdale."

Speaking of collectible and properly marked R9s Farmingdales, here is a photo of one with the frame anodized in the rare "plum" (sometimes called "bronze") color and wearing black CF grips rather than its original blues. (The blues are in my gun safe.) This R9, however, will not be up for auction. It has been my EDC since May 2004 and I intend that it will remain so until I shuffle off the mortal coil:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/RohrbaughR9withBlackCarbonFiberGrip.jpg)

_{[Clarified reference to anodizing.]}
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Andy2337 on January 13, 2013, 07:00:13 PM: Here you go!!!
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: tracker on January 13, 2013, 07:05:51 PM: Very nice; I am pulling for you on the asking price.
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: Andy2337 on January 13, 2013, 07:14:49 PM: So you all know! I was one of the first customers on this firearm. Was not looking for a collectable, just a 9mm small carry gun and found there website and order one before they were even ready to be shipped to the public. I waited several months for the actual delivery. In addition, the reason it was returned to the factory is because it was not ejecting correctly. That could have been my limp wrist, or the wrong ammo. I was informed nothing was wrong with it. They changed the spring, it was cleaned, and I was informed it would be sent back in an AS NEW condition. It was suggested that I not be taking it to the range because it was a valuable and collectable gun, and that I should treat it as such!!!
Title: Re: Early R9s for Sale
Post by: tracker on January 13, 2013, 09:44:36 PM: Those like yours are very few in number, Andy.