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Title: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: cargaritaville on December 28, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
My gunsmith carries a Caspian 3" 1911 Compact .45. His father carries the same but in a Titanium frame. Oh my God! A Titanium frame is so much lighter than all the rest...unbelievable feel! He now is building me one. I asked his father what he thought was the best 3" 1911 .45 out there for the money, besides the Caspians , which are pricey...especially in Titanium. Without hesitation, he said the Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact. So I bought one. Took it to the range a few days ago. Less recoil than the R9S. Weighs in at 28 ozs unloaded w/mag. The easiest .45 I have ever shot. It made me a better shot than I am. I will not say what my groupings were because they were the best I have ever shot. I love this gun, and I am back in love with 45s. The Galco Tuck 424 makes carrying this in an IWB effortless.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: tracker on December 28, 2014, 10:36:14 PM

Beautiful and very nice; however, I prefer a Glock 36 at 22+oz. unloaded for a carry .45. It is a different animal, for certain, and to each his own. The G-36 is also very accurate.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: mbscdh on December 28, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
Great guns, just wish the Sigs and S&W's did not have the external extractors.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: dddonkey on December 29, 2014, 08:07:07 AM
I too have a sig 1911 and it is by far the lightest and best shooting one I have in 45acp. I just love the way it feels in my hand compared to others. Congrats on you new purchase and enjoy!
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: cargaritaville on December 29, 2014, 08:08:38 AM
Great guns, just wish the Sigs and S&W's did not have the external extractors.

Why?
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: backupr9 on December 29, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
I haven't tried the Sig Ultra but will now look for one to try out.  I do have a Kimber 3" Ultra CDP that is essentially the  same unoaded weight...night sights, great feel, minimal recoil IMO, fires every time with whatever I feed it, very accurate. Trigger pull is a little light for carry, expecially if you are used to DAO small pistols, but overall a wonderful handgun. 
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: MRC on December 29, 2014, 12:17:58 PM
I have been shooting 45 ACP quite a bit lately.

I have been trying hard to like a Boberg XR45s and it has a lot going for it.  At 22 oz. with an empty magazine it is the lightest non polymer 45. It has 6+1 capacity, very good sights, and an 3.75" barrel all in the smallest package out there. With the reverse feed action, recoil is quite mild.  My problem is that the trigger reach is just too long for my small hands.  This coupled with the very  l o n g  trigger pull makes it difficult for me to shoot fast and with accuracy.

I also have been trying out a Springfield XDs 45.  At 21.5 oz empty, 7+1 capacity with an extended magazine and a 3.3" barrel it to has a lot of good features.  I prefer striker fired guns and the XDs has a very good trigger, easy to reach for me and has very good sights and accuracy.  I shoot it better than the Boberg.  Recoil is surprisingly easy to control.  It is a very nice gun and I would recommend it.

Do you guys carry your 1911's Cocked and Locked in your waist band and and belt holster?
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: cargaritaville on December 29, 2014, 02:10:49 PM
Do you guys carry your 1911's Cocked and Locked in your waist band and and belt holster?

It's the only way I ever carry it.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: backupr9 on December 29, 2014, 05:31:52 PM
Do you guys carry your 1911's Cocked and Locked in your waist band and and belt holster?

It's the only way I ever carry it.

Agree fully.  In an emergency you may not have the time to rack the slide.  Moreover, you may need the off hand for protection or to pull yourself into cover...impossible to rack at the same time.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: tattoo on December 29, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
Do you guys carry your 1911's Cocked and Locked in your waist band and and belt holster?

It's the only way I ever carry it.
its the only way i ever carry also....
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: tracker on December 29, 2014, 05:48:00 PM
In the same realm is the Springfield Range Officer Compact which is very highly regarded by hickok45, for example.
Springfield pistols bring a lot to the table in value and quality, imo.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: MRC on December 29, 2014, 05:48:55 PM
Do you guys carry your 1911's Cocked and Locked in your waist band and and belt holster?

It's the only way I ever carry it.

Agree fully.  In an emergency you may not have the time to rack the slide.  Moreover, you may need the off hand for protection or to pull yourself into cover...impossible to rack at the same time.

I would certainly agree with you also.  That Galco 424 just looked like in might be uncomfortable to me.  I have never tried it though.  Good luck.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: tracker on December 29, 2014, 07:31:35 PM

The January issue of "Combat Handguns" has some excellent reviews of the Springfield Range Officer Compact and the Boberg .45, among several other interesting pistols.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: MRC on December 29, 2014, 07:55:03 PM

The January issue of "Combat Handguns" has some excellent reviews of the Springfield Range Officer Compact and the Boberg .45, among several other interesting pistols.

Here is a review of the XR45s.  I really like the pistol except for the LOP being to long for me.

If you look at the picture of the gun in the reviewer's hand, notice how it lays back over the web of his hand.  As I shoot the pistol my hand turns so the corner of the pistol frame recoils onto the thumb joint in the web of my hand.  During a long shooting session I actually beat the joint raw before I quit and bruised the bone.


http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2014/12/boberg-xr45-s/#boberg-xr45-s-front
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: tracker on December 29, 2014, 08:04:16 PM

The Boberg doesn't work ergonomically for me, either. I picked one up in an upscale Dallas gun store over Christmas and the grip is too clunky for my small hands in addition to the LOP being too long. The only good thing I noticed was that the slide felt like it was on ball bearings when I pulled it back--not my cup of tea, though.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: MRC on December 29, 2014, 08:21:24 PM
The XR9 fits my hand like a glove.  Most 45's feel a little big in my hand, but I can reach the trigger.  I shoot Auto Mags and Wildeys and the grips on them are huge but the triggers are fairly nice single actions and not the long pull of DAO.

The recoil spring on the Boberg is just to push the slide back forward.  That is why the slide feels so slick.  The "reverse feed action" is what takes up the recoil.  I have seen videos of Arne Boberg shooting the pistol with no recoil spring in the gun.  He flips the slide forward to return it.

To appreciate the Boberg design you really have to shoot it.
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: Richard S on December 29, 2014, 08:27:40 PM
Do you guys carry your 1911's Cocked and Locked in your waist band and and belt holster?

It's the only way I ever carry it.

I also.

And here is a link to a thread discussing another option:

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=7518.msg84327#msg84327
Title: Re: New Sig Sauer 1911 Ultra Compact
Post by: JoshA on January 03, 2015, 01:08:26 AM
Nice gun. I have one and shot it next to my Kimber ultra carry II and the Sig is a tick nicer IMO plus I don't like how the ultra carry takes down.

The one thing I can say for the Kimber ultra carry II is that it has a pretty good reputation for running very dependably. So far my sig is 100%, but it's only got 100 or so and the Kimber has 200-300. Both are very nice IMO.

+1 on the G36 tracker.

As for cocked and locked... I am very conscious of my side arm when carrying cocked and locked and I like to forget I'm carrying, but as others have stated its the only way to carry a 1911. That's why I don't carry mine typically.