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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: Douglas on November 23, 2022, 12:15:29 AM
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Hi all,
Been here forever. Still check in on occasion to see what's up in the Rohrbaugh world.
I have a simple question.
Do you still carry an R9 daily?
At the time, it was the smallest 9mm ever. Now, other options exist. But that doesn't change the size of the gun in your pocket.
At the time, parts were cheap and easy to come by, and there was true factory service. Now, less so. But that doesn't change the reliability of the well maintained gun in your pocket.
At the time, Rohrbaughs were rare, but not unobtainable. Now they may be curiosities.
So, with these few, and you may think of other, questions in mind, do you still carry your R9 on a daily basis, or is it now a gun that lives in the safe as a collectible example of high-tech, forward-thinking engineering?
Thank you.
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Perhaps I can expand.
Our geographic situation has changed. A small gun, in the pocket always, may be the order of the day forever more.
I have, and love, J-frames, but flat semi-autos carry more easily.
I have a G-43, but carry it IWB. I started shopping Ruger LCPs, but then (of course) said to myself, "Just carry your R9S."
Thus, the question.
I always had a thing or two about the R9 that gave me pause, but nothing there that would be answered by an LCP.
In 2022, is carrying this gun the equivalent of carrying a Colt SAA, Walther P-38, or Colt Pocket Hammerless?
It will work. It is effective. But you don't need to subject one to daily abuse, and it isn't wise to do so.
Has the R9 become a collectible; to own one is amazing, to carry one is absurd?
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Since moving in 2015 to the very safe Amelia Island, FL I have been remiss in daily carry. When I do carry here, it is one of my R9’s or a Seecamp .32. When visiting Jacksonville, a notoriously dangerous city, I carry a Sig P365 with a 12 round mag and a spare 15 rounder since in that environment a “get off of me” gun makes little sense. The Rohrbaugh R9 properly cared for and appropriately used is still a world-class carry piece IMO.
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I also carry a Glock 43 and have recently purchased a 9 round mag from Shield Arms.
https://shieldarms.com/z9
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I also carry a Glock 43 and have recently purchased a 9 round mag from Shield Arms.
https://shieldarms.com/z9
Interesting. Did you swap out the mag catch as well?
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No, I did not but that sounds like a good idea. However, it appears that the factory mag catch works fine with the Shield magazine.
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Wondering if there's a Catch-22 of the factory polymer mag catch becoming worn by the steel magazines, or the upgraded mag catch wearing on normal polymer magazines.
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I don't know but matching similar surface interfacing materials makes sense.
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Douglas and Tracker, you guys got me interested as well. I don't even have a small frame Glock (Do have a 80% just in case). However, they do explain why they recommend you changing the mag catch here: https://shieldarms.com/s15-talk-mag-catches
Back to the R9. It is my daily carry. In situations where I am going outside my normal areas I do choose to carry a G-19 or a Kimber Pro Carry in addition. Both provide me with a little extra insurance. I will open carry a G-20C when going into the woods, but the R9 is still in the pocket.
The R9 does exactly what it did when I first got it, time has not diminished it's usefulness to me, even with other newer options.
Not worried about breakage, things happen and I will figure out how to repair as needed. They seem to be robust enough to last forever with the limited number of rounds I put through it. I very rarely have to repair a broken part on any of my firearms, even the higher use ones. I've got guns with many thousands of rounds down the pipe that still tick along just fine.
May have lost one of my R9s' recently as herself asked me to let her 'look' at the spare, LOL. Next range day, the one with sights may end up being a purse gun :(
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Thank you, Mike. Unfortunately, the Z9 steel mag catch for the G43 is out of stock. I will order one when available.
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Great stuff Mike! Thanks.
So the answer is yes, just as taught in Glock Armorer School. Always plastic against plastic, metal against metal.
If you're going to use metal magazines, you should use the metal magazine catch, and not go back to polymer magazines.
If you're going to keep the polymer magazine catch, you should stick with polymer magazines and forget about switching to steel magazines.
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I picked up my R9 in December 2021 and have been carrying it pretty regularly since. I always have my Seecamp 380, sometimes I carry it as a primary, but it usually is carried as a BUG to my R9. I have a P365 that I don't carry very often, I like that the R9 is a little smaller and lighter to carry.
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YES, daily (its on me now)
the rohrbaugh is still the smallest, lightest, most powerful, highest quality handgun i've found
i've considered newest handguns like the P365, but empty it weighs around 5oz more, and then add the weight of the additional rounds (besides, i'm not a huge fan of tupperware firearms)
the diamondback db9 is close in size/weight but feels way too cheesy to instill confidence
on rare occasions in really hot weather i do prefer a smith 340PD/342PD because it more comfortable when carried on my ankle, but i like the flatness, smooth action, and two extra rds the R9 offers when in pocket or on belt
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I have never mastered the art of effectively shooting a R9. I am a terrible shot with it. I have tried everything...nothing helps. But, I love the fit, finish & style of these guns. At one point, I owned 16 of them. I now own just a new one that sits happily in my safe and gets adored now and then by me and my friends. I never carried a R9, but understand why many of you do. I have carried many guns. I broke all my records with carrying an Sig Sauer P938 Legion 9mm for over 3 years! A beautiful gun! Just sold it. Until I decide what to carry next long term, I am carrying a Kahr CM9 9mm. I have owned this gun for many years. Carried it, shot it...love it. I keep going back to it. It is a pleasure to shoot and extremely accurate. Check it out.
https://shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com/cm9-cm9093/
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Good lord you had a lot of R9’s! That is way cool.
I had two of them, not at the same time. I had a early one, sold it and bought the one I have now. I really love this pistol and I do carry it from time to time.
This one has no sights, love it!
If the bros were still making them, I’m sure I’d have another by now.
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Hey chameleon,
Are you the fellow I met at South Shore Sportsman a number of years back when we were in business?
Mike was the owner of that store.
Just curious. . . . . .
Regards,
Eric R.
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Hey chameleon,
Are you the fellow I met at South Shore Sportsman a number of years back when we were in business?
Mike was the owner of that store.
Just curious. . . . . .
Regards,
Eric R.
Hello Eric,
It was many years ago around this time we met at SHOT, I gave you a ride back to Rio.
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Oh wow, yes. I remember that. Good to have you here!
ECR
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Well, I’m still carrying my R9, it is in my pocket at this moment.
I was carrying the Sig 365, a great pistol, but striker fired. I still have a foundness for the R9.
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I have been carrying my R9 for the past few weeks every day.
I ordered more 115gr Silvertips and have a range session planned.
Not many tiny 9mm pistols out there with DA and exposed hammer.
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"Not many tiny 9mm pistols out there with DA and exposed hammer."
Exactly. That can be a significant feature should you come across hard primers using a striker-fired pistol when the chips are down.
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I carry my Rohrbaugh though there are others that take its place depending on the circumstances. Sometimes something smaller and lighter and sometimes something larger and sometimes something that I’m not as concerned about getting wet.
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"Not many tiny 9mm pistols out there with DA and exposed hammer."
Exactly. That can be a significant feature should you come across hard primers using a striker-fired pistol when the chips are down.
That is jus one plus.
Striker fired pistol is cocked 7/8 and ready to fire, no turning back. Exposed hammer gives you a visual and an actual feel what position it is in, and when in my pocket, I want it at rest.
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I carry 2 guns daily:
1) The R9 in my front right pocket.
2) The RM380 in my rear left pocket.
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Updating.
I picked up a Sig P365 last year. I had been able to shoot one several times, owned by a friend. It was amazing. The sights are excellent. Recoil is mild. It shoots like a service pistol. It's freakishly small, if one didn't know the R9.
It has ten-round flush magazines, and a slide stop. It's got Glock level reliability.
It's all I carry now. I don't tend to pocket carry it, because, owing to a location change that creates wardrobe changes, I prefer not to lose the pocket space.
Still glad to have this place.
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I still use my R9 for EDC. It is simply the most comfortable quality carry pistol IWB/0WB/pocket. It is small, smooth, hammer fired, powerful, and predictable if maintained and fed the ammo it prefers. Accuracy should not ever be an issue with a “Get Off Of Me” gun as these are point and shoot at ranges of 2 inches to 5 yards (extreme distance 7-10 yards with practice). I shoot 20 rounds at the range 3 to 4 times in a year making my recoil spring good for 3 to 4 years (I am 82 so may not need another), but I have multiple spare springs.
I also sometimes carry a Seecamp due to clothing constraints here in Florida, good for 3 to 12 feet. Amelia Island is isolated and very safe; when I travel to JAX I carry my P365 in 12 + 1 configuration with a spare 15 round mag and a BUG. I do wish I had the eyes, strength, balance and reflexes I had 12 years ago but upright and above ground is still a pretty good day for me!
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I am glad this thread got bumped. I've changed my mind about one topic in this thread......the G43 mag catch thing.
I now firmly believe it's a snake oil pitch. I've finished the 'ghost gun' 43, shot it, had it destroyed in an accident, re-built it as a 43X. That Shield mag catch is a way to lock you into purchasing their overpriced (Shield) magazines in the future. Yes, I got taken as well. Learned my lesson. Realized that the number of mag changes you would have to do far exceeds something I will ever perform on a carry gun. Maybe a competition gun after years and years of hard use, but not a carry gun.
Got pointed out how many folks, me included, run poly mags in their ARs and such with a metal mag catch with zero issues. No company insists you buy a (non-existent) polymer mag catch to run PMags, LOL.
In the future I will not change out the factory mag catch. However I will continue to use into the Shield magazine with it's extension (20 total) and be comfortable with it. I will also probably purchase the equivalent magazines from PSA for any future G43X I get and not worry about the magazine catch and save money in the process.
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Mike,
I have a Glock 43 and purchased a Shield magazine for it that has not been used. Are you saying that it is safe to use the Shield with an unaltered magazine catch?
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Yes, unless you plan on thousands of mag changes and don't want to drop $7 on a factory replacement when it fails after a few hundred thousand rounds.
JMHO................I could be wrong.
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Thank you; that is what I thought also.