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Other Guns / Re: 12 Gauge Pistol???
« Last post by MikeInTexas on April 02, 2019, 09:49:50 AM »
Got ya ECR.

Just pointing out that for a lot of folks owning a proper firearm for self defense is not an option, and this unique item may fill the void.

This, if it has good sales and is successful in Europe, it might cause the bureaucrats at the EU to change their law closing the loop hole. 

I like ideas that think outside the norm to circumvent the norm.
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: HELP PLEASE - New Owner - Pistol Won't Run
« Last post by ECR on April 01, 2019, 08:25:01 PM »
Yes, the warranty was to the original owner only. While we did take care of almost every single R9 that came back anyway, it did give us "an out" if the person sending it back was totally abusive to the firearm and expected the company to repair it even when it was obviously mistreated to the max by several owners. That said, Williams and Remington have been doing good work for the R9 but I am not involved with any of their policies or companies whatsoever at this point. After a short stint at Remington in their "R&D" department, that was the end of it for Karl and I. It's really up to them to do what they can for you, the current owner. I'm sorry to hear they won't do anything for you, to include a possible replacement with their new RM380 (Rohrbaugh R380 variant). Heck, those are inexpensive enough and would certainly be "good will" for the industry. But, what do I know? I hope something can be done with your pistol Rick. Perhaps a seasoned pistolsmith can get it tuned up for you if Remington decides they are out of it at this point. There is nothing I can do at this point unfortunately, I'm sorry to say.

Regards,

Eric R.
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Other Guns / Re: 12 Gauge Pistol???
« Last post by ECR on April 01, 2019, 08:04:50 PM »
Silly item and not necessary, IMHO.

Is that opinion based on the fact you live in the USA and not in Europe where getting a gun for self protection is significantly harder if not impossible, and this one bypasses a lot of the restrictions allowing most to carry it?  Don't see it making a splash in the US market, but for some in need overseas it could be the answer.

No Mike, that opinion is based on me only, personally, not for other people who may have or see a need for it. I'm just saying. . . . For Me. . . . I wouldn't own one. That's all. Not my cup of tea.
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: HELP PLEASE - New Owner - Pistol Won't Run
« Last post by PhilZ on April 01, 2019, 07:52:00 PM »
I think it was always original owner.
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: HELP PLEASE - New Owner - Pistol Won't Run
« Last post by rikhek on April 01, 2019, 01:49:41 PM »
Eric,

I earlier posted my surprise that the repair is not covered by warranty.  I would have thought it was covered by a lifetime warranty to all owners, not just original purchaser.  I'm shocked the lawyers would have made this a condition of the sale to Remington due to liability concerns?  Is Williams correct on the warranty coverage is only to original purchasers?

Rick
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Range Report - Hollow Point R9 Failure
« Last post by Boatswainmate on April 01, 2019, 01:28:35 PM »

Firstly Appreciated is everyone’s response to my ongoing hollow point problems with my R9, entitled Gold Dot Hollow Point versus Round Nose Ammunition. Yesterday  I finally made it to the range to once again test my feed problem with various ammo in addition to Gold Dot hollow points. Starting out with Gold Dot 115 gr hollow points I experienced feed problems in every instance where the hollow points just would not feed upon racking the slide. Also when I manually did get the first shell to load, once fired  a follow up normal feed resulted in jams in every instance. This repeated itself utilizing 4 different magazines so magazine springs is not seen as a problem nor I suspect are the magazines themselves.

Next I loaded Lawman 124 gr round nose into each of the four magazines. Each experience was easy to feed without a failure upon racking each time, and no jams thereafter were experienced from any one of all 4 magazines as they emptied with out a hitch. 

Next I loaded in all 4 magazines Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr ammo. Noted was Shell Measurements of Gold Dot versus Hornady showed Hornady to be a thinner and a might smaller shell? I presumed Gold Dots larger size might be a contributor to the failures being experienced? The racking of Hornady ammo demonstrated but a couple inconsistencies upon racking (jam) but easier to eject without use of a tool when jammed. Once in battery and fired a couple of jams had occurred (failure to feed). One or two failure to feed is one too many particularly if life or death is in the balance. I could over look the racking inconsistencies but the failure to feed just once is a major deterrent from carrying this loved firearm. I have others a Nano and Springfield’s XDS that is absolutely without problems. They eat all ammos.

On another positive note though, I did take the suggestion of another on the Forum, i.e., to enhance sighting one should paint the front sight first with white paint as a base to the top of the sight, followed by a coat or two of bright orange to illuminate the front sightpicture in line with the rear sight. WOW what a difference for both the Hornady and the Lawman were spot on the target and in 7 yards all were placed but a couple within a 4 inch round target. My suggestion is try it if you are having similar eye sight problems as I once did. This was the most positive outcome of my day at the range.

Frankly I am not confident to carry the R9 with these problems expressed so I need to have it looked at to discover if the problems can be corrected. If not I am sorry to say I may sell this firearm for lack of it’s dependability. Last Year I had a cracked slide that Eric R. graciously substituted for a slide from his stash at home. He is a GEM of a person! At the time he informed me that if other problems occurred and  If I purchased the gun new or used, Remington is taking care of the warranty of the R9 pistols through:

Williams Gun Sight, Inc.
PO Box 329
Davison, Michigan  48423

1-810-653-2131
   or
1-800-530-9028

I will call them April 1 st however does anyone have any new suggestions as to a remedy and/or is there another gunsmith that you might reccomend through your experience that may have answers and/or could repair my problem or even recommend another self defense ammunition that I might try? Obviously I am out of answers as my technical experience with firearms is rather limited, but my common since to reach beyond my 76 yrs of age is not limited. Well thanks again to all that have replied to my initial thread.
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I’m sorry about the delayed reply man   ::)

TT OWB is Still Available (& a Del fatti BPB up for grabs too)

eMail me please if you would like to see photos

mrthomaspresley@gmail.com

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Firstly Appreciated is everyone’s response to my ongoing hollow point problems with my R9. Yesterday  I finally made it to the range to once again test my feed problem with various ammo in addition to Gold Dot hollow points. Starting out with Gold Dot 115 gr hollow points I experienced feed problems in every instance where the hollow points just would not feed upon racking the slide. Also when I manually did get the first shell to load, once fired  a follow up normal feed resulted in jams in every instance. This repeated itself utilizing 4 different magazines so magazine springs is not seen as a problem nor I suspect are the magazines themselves.

Next I loaded Lawman 124 gr round nose into each of the four magazines. Each experience was easy to feed without a failure upon racking each time, and no jams thereafter were experienced from any one of all 4 magazines as they emptied with out a hitch. 

Next I loaded in all 4 magazines Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr ammo. Noted was Shell Measurements of Gold Dot versus Hornady showed Hornady to be a thinner and a might smaller shell? I presumed Gold Dots larger size might be a contributor to the failures being experienced? The racking of Hornady ammo demonstrated but a couple inconsistencies upon racking (jam) but easier to eject without use of a tool when jammed. Once in battery and fired a couple of jams had occurred (failure to feed). One or two failure to feed is one too many particularly if life or death is in the balance. I could over look the racking inconsistencies but the failure to feed just once is a major deterrent from carrying this loved firearm. I have others a Nano and Springfield’s XDS that is absolutely without problems. They eat all ammos.

On another positive note though, I did take the suggestion of another on the Forum, i.e., to enhance sighting one should paint the front sight first with white paint as a base to the top of the sight, followed by a coat or two of bright orange to illuminate the front sightpicture in line with the rear sight. WOW what a difference for both the Hornady and the Lawman were spot on the target and in 7 yards all were placed but a couple within a 4 inch round target. My suggestion is try it if you are having similar eye sight problems as I once did. This was the most positive outcome of my day at the range.

Frankly I am not confident to carry the R9 with these problems expressed so I need to have it looked at to discover if the problems can be corrected. If not I am sorry to say I may sell this firearm for lack of it’s dependability. Last Year I had a cracked slide that Eric R. graciously substituted for a slide from his stash at home. He is a GEM of a person! At the time he informed me that if other problems occurred and  If I purchased the gun new or used, Remington is taking care of the warranty of the R9 pistols through:

Williams Gun Sight, Inc.
PO Box 329
Davison, Michigan  48423

1-810-653-2131
   or
1-800-530-9028

I will call them April 1 st however does anyone have any new suggestions as to a remedy and/or is there another gunsmith that you might reccomend through your experience that may have answers and/or could repair my problem or even recommend another self defense ammunition that I might try? Obviously I am out of answers as my technical experience with firearms is rather limited, but my common since to reach beyond my 76 yrs of age is not limited. Well thanks again to all that have replied to my initial thread.
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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Del Fatti BPB
« Last post by tomuncommon on March 31, 2019, 12:24:47 PM »
Mahogany 1.5” loop 20 degree rake

asking $248 net (insured USPS Priority)


— pics available by eMail

mrthomaspresley@gmail.com
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Other Guns / Re: 12 Gauge Pistol???
« Last post by tracker on March 30, 2019, 10:08:17 PM »
He is well connected and I doubt that he bought his pistol at DCAM.
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