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Offline Reinz

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Recoil Theory on the Pup
« on: January 24, 2011, 03:37:19 PM »
Having being a member here for a full 5 years now, it seems that the subject of recoil comes up from time to either directly or indirectly.  It seems most/or a lot think the R9 has somewhat harsh recoil with a limit of 4- 8 mags of range time.

Then there of those of us with more experience(?) that just do not see it that way at all.

This got me thinking about demographics.  With the time I have been a member and the information given it seems to me that if you took a bell curve of  the member"s ages, the peak of the curve would show the majority to be 50-60 years old.

So what?   Well if you think about, that seems to be the age when many shooters back off on caliber sizes.  Your dad, uncle, grandpa, went to a 20 ga for bird hunting.   The older guys on the trap range switch to .410 or 28 ga, or 20ga.

Your dad, grandpa rediscovers his .22's and 38 specials.  And the 44 mags stay in the safe.

Deer season, they switch to a 257 Roberts or .243 instead of 30-06.

I don't enjoy my 44 mags anymore.

Let's face it, with the exception of KJ, as we get older, we reach a point of recoil sensitivity.


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And at that age is when the kids are grown and gone and you can  more easily afford an R9, so we are seeing more posts from this age bracket.

Just a theory, any thoughts ?
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 05:36:51 PM »
Over the years of collecting rifles, one thing I can say for sure is that I picked up many larger caliber rifles for the exact reasons you stated...hmmm does make you think!

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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 08:02:05 PM »
Eh, I don't know - I'm 30, and a former strongman/powerlifter.  The pup really isn't too bad, but its a long way from my 38 super.  I still can't say I'd ever desire to shoot more than a few mags from the pup*, nor would I see a reason to do so.  

*I know, all that "tactical" stuff, and "training" stuff, but I don't know that a pup is really suited for those concerns.
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 10:04:39 PM »
Yep!  So far it just hasn't hit me yet.  Maybe after shooting those 700 grainers in the .500 Mag, which I haven't done yet, I will have reached the pinacle of recoil.  I still don't mind the .454, .44 Mag., or 500 Mag (400 gr.).  Even shooting the .357 Sig Glock for 50 rds, seems like a peashooter after shooting the aforementioned three.

None the less, I still enjoy shooting the Ruger .22.  
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 12:00:17 AM »
I don't mind the pups recoil at all.
 I had a custom 44 mag (called the Rhino) it was a Dan Wesson 357max bored out to 44 and fitted with a 44 barrel. The brass was 30-40 Krag reworked and trimmed to 1 3/4" it had 50% more energy at the muzzle than a 44mag. I also had a Ruger Alaskan 454 and didn't find any of these to be unpleasant to shoot.
  I just purchased a S&W 340PD, 357mag & 13oz. I had one before but sold it, they are a pocket full of power and plenty of recoil with mag loads.
   I think 40 + years working in the building trades has made my hands less sensitive to shock (recoil).

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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 01:27:23 PM »
Reinz:

After decades of "reckless living" resulting, among other things, in the loss of the first digit of my right ring finger and the surgical repair of a torn right-shoulder rotator cuff, I subscribe to your theory. As an example, I rarely load 3" magnums in my 12-gauge anymore.   :-/
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 05:27:55 PM »
Thanks for input guys!

As usual there are exceptions.  I was talking averages.

I do not find the pup's recoil bothersome at all.  When I go the range, I fire between 100-200 rounds minimum and quit due to time restraint.  
However, I do not enjoy my 44 mags or 357s anymore.
But then, I do have compounded medical issues as well.
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 01:06:47 AM »
It isn't that I mind the recalls of the big thumpers, but, I find I appreciate some of the finer points of the .45 ACP, .44 special and even the .38 special.

As for long guns, I grew up shooting 12 gauge slugs for deer - I don't even notice much after those.

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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 10:02:30 PM »
Try shooting a .458!  Such fun!    :D
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 03:18:34 PM »
I think maybe the recoil thing may boil down to a mixture of age, medical, and experience variables- or-

Maybe as we get older some of us just get smarter!  ;D
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Re: Recoil Theory on the Pup
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 04:52:48 PM »
Smarter could be the key!    :D
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