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Offline jarich42

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Nemesis Holster
« on: March 08, 2005, 12:44:25 PM »
Have you guys seen this holster? If not here is the link. If so, what do you thin about it?
http://www.desantisholster.com/n38.html

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 12:04:18 AM »
The are inexpensive and a lot of people speak highly of them.

I prefer a stiffer leather holster myself -- besides, holsters are just supposed to be leather!  ;)
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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 02:03:16 AM »
That looks interesting.  One problem I have had is that in a pocket holster, even a good one, the pistol can sometimes rotate upside down or sidewise.

What I wonder about this, though, is if it's a safe option.  A good holster must completely cover the trigger and prevent it from being pulled, while leaving room for a good grip before the draw.  This seems to at least do the later.  

Maybe I'll send them a note and ask.  If the material is soft, it's probably a no go.

Gator, I must respectfully disagree.  A holster should be made of whatever material best suits its goal.  In the case of a pocket holster, I think, the goal is thin, light and strong.  I think kydes fills that bill well.  

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 08:42:41 AM »
I have one of these for my P-32.  It works fine covers 99% of the trigger and stays at least right side up if not totally in place in larger pockets.  It is a little small for docker style pants pockets, so you have to make sure you hook the end on the pocket upon drawing the weapon.

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 09:48:42 AM »
My leather comment was made with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek...  People have very strong, sometimes emotional, attachments to the materials from which their holsters are constructed.  We will see if anyone else take the bait.  ;)

That being said, I do generally prefer leather holsters.  I have some kydex, but only for specific purposes.  My "race" holsters are kydex, as a a few other specialty items.

That being said, I have never found a kydex pocket holster that I personally cared for.  Kydex is not that much lighter, in my experience, than leather.  Furthermore, it is really too hard and stiff for a pocket holster for me.  A leather holster has adequate stiffness for security, but will shape itself to you body over time like a well worn baseball glove.  Kydex is just a plastic lump.

Lastly -- a kydex holster will never, IMHO, look at good as one made of leather.  I know that most people won't see it in my pocket -- but I will.   ;D
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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 10:13:04 PM »
OK, I'll bite. . . .RELEASE THE HOUNDS!

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In the case of a pocket holster, I think, the goal is thin, light and strong.
Thin, light, and strong. . . .hmnm. . . .they certainly are a few desirable traits in a condom, but an inclusive list for a  holster. . . . . hmmm. . . . .don't think I'd want to carry my R9 in one of those!

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One problem I have had is that in a pocket holster, even a good one, the pistol can sometimes rotate upside down or sidewise.
One could make a rather convincing case that the situation you describe does not involve a good pocket holster.

If the holster has failed such that the gun orientation is now pointing upward, you may blow your head off trying to defend yourself.  If the trigger isn't covered in this holster, you might as well be carrying your pistol in your mouth.  While this will certainly stop an attack, I'm not sure you will be happy with the result. :)

You may want to take a read on this link and the subsequent postings:
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Accessories;action=display;num=1108757543;start=12#12
I'm sure Duane remembers this discussion. :)

I hope nobody takes this posting personally - just having a little fun!  Duane "chummed" the water, so being a supportive member of the forum, I felt obligated to bite. ;D

On a more serious note, pocket carry does not typically provide for the fastest of presentations (in contrast to other methods of carry).  Is it that you are looking to increase the speed of the draw with the Kydex, or did you just have an unsatisfactory experience with another type of material?

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2005, 10:32:12 PM »
I've been using this holster for my R9 from the beginning and it works fine. If my pocket is too big, I move up to a larger gun with a different holster. I improvise, I adapt.....I heard that somewhere.

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 10:52:54 PM »
Even a good pocket holster may not fit the pocket well, and I don't really want to have different pocket holsters for all the different pants I wear.  I also don't want a pile of pocket guns.  I prefer to become proficient with my carry guns and stick to them.  

Honestly, I am not a fan of pocket carry anyhow.  Would you ever point a loaded firearm at your spouse or child, even a holstered one?  Well, that's what you do when you sit down accross from them in a restaurant booth.  Still, sometimes there is no real option.  But the fact that it's pointed at someone while you sit demands the best holster possible, with an emphasis on preventing an unwanted trigger pull.  Add to this the fact that the R9 has no active safety and I need to be very careful.  

I have found kydex to be thin, strong and stiff enough to protect the trigger but still thin enough to bend around my leg.  It clamps on the trigger guard nicely so the pistol does not fall out.  For non-pocket carry, I use some leather, like my High Noon slide guard for my Sig P239, and some kydex, like the other IWB thing (I forget what make it is) for my HK USPc.  I am also thinking of ordering a carbon fiber blackhawk holster just to try.  

But I am not against trying a leather pocket holster for the R9s.  Actually, it looks like I have no choice.  I am very picky about a holster being made for the gun it protects and I don't use a generic holster.  I would never, ever not use a holster or something like one of those clips.    

Most likely, I'll order a Hedley.  I was very impressed with RJ's sending a free magazine holder to someone who bought one of his holsters new.  That kind of generostiy deserves reward.  And, it will be cold enough for my HK for the next 5 weeks.  ;)

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 11:17:44 PM »
Jarcher,

You bring up a good point in your example of the pocket holster in the restaurant.  One way I can think of mitigating that risk is sitting on the innermost seat at the booth with the pocket holstered leg pointed towards the wall.

I would imagine you would have the same type of issues with various other methods of carry.  For example, carrying SOB is aimed somewhere.  If you are seated, it may be aimed at your buddy next to you.  Anyone using the smartcarry type of holster is aiming directly at the person in front of them, at least while seated.

Maybe some of the other members with years of pocket carry experience could relate some tips they have found useful?

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Re: Nemesis Holster
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 11:21:13 PM »
Jarcher,

Almost forgot, - could you post the models of pocket holsters you have used.  This may provide a better frame of reference.

Thanks!