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Offline outlawyr

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Tempted Not to Shoot It
« on: July 29, 2005, 06:01:36 PM »
OK, now that I have it, I confess that I am sorely tempted to lock it away and not shoot it.  (my precious)  I am now understanding why some of you already have two.

It seems such a vanity to have a pistol you don't shoot and I really do have a need for a decent-power pocket pistol for daily carry.

So, I will probably go straight to the range and get on with it.

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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 07:06:57 PM »
I vote go to the range and have fun!

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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 08:27:28 PM »
outlawyr:

From your handle, I assume that you are a lawyer.  As one lawyer to another, I would advise that you not only shoot your Rohrbaugh but also carry it on a daily basis.  (If your state's CCW law is the same as mine, however, you will  be expected to lock it in your automobile when you enter the courthouse.)

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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2005, 09:14:31 PM »
If it were not for having #1 R9 as a very early one I'd not have gotten two.  #2 is used for carry and while it so far shows no obvious signs of carry, will not concern me too much if ultimately it does.

If I had gotten one more recently then I would have that alone as sufficient - as Karl says - ''carry a lot, shoot a little''. :)
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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2005, 11:39:15 PM »
Richard S,

In many (maybe most) areas, Judges are exempt from the prohibition of concealed carry within the courthouse.  As being an attorney -- and officer of the court, would it be possible for a Judge in a particular jurisdiction to grant an attorney the ability to carry conceled within the courthouse as an officer of the court in his/her particular courtroom?

Just curious that is an option or a way around restrictive prohibitions in a courthouse...
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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2005, 03:28:11 AM »
One of my buddies is a prosecutor, in TX, and has a non-prosecute agreement which allows him to carry in court, church, etc -- we're also a small town w. a rampant meth traffic, and I think his church grants all CCW permit holders permission to carry.  

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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2005, 08:07:36 AM »
outlawyr,

   I hope by now you've gone out and " bonded" with your " precious"  PUP!

   The more I shoot mine the tighter we become, I carry all day and we are very close at night! She is at the ready right next to my bed.

   I too, feel a need for second R9, I hate the thought of not having my " Pup"  as a constant companion, if something were to happen to it , and I had to go back to a larger, heavier pistol I'd be devastated!

   And you know what, ....I'm not even concerned if it gets a scratch, or small wear mark on it!  I bought it to protect and keep me and my family safe, and I feel any kind of a small  blemish is only going to give it some " Character" and make us closer!  It is IMO a tool, to be used for just that purpose.

   I'm looking in my inventory of guns to see what I'd part with to obtain another R9,  of course like they say, your first love is the one you'll always remember!   ;D
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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2005, 01:40:35 PM »
Fly:

You raise an interesting question.  I believe, however, that in Tennessee the matter is settled by the following statute:

 
"TCA 39-17-1306.  Carrying weapons during judicial proceedings.

"(a) No person shall intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carry on or about the person while inside any room in which judicial proceedings are in progress any weapon prohibited by § 39-17-1302, for the purpose of going armed; provided, that if the weapon carried is a firearm, the person is in violation of this section regardless of whether such weapon is carried for the purpose of going armed.

"(b) Any person violating subsection (a) commits a Class E felony.

"(c) The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to any person who:

"(1) Is in the actual discharge of official duties as a law enforcement officer, or is employed in the army, air force, navy, coast guard or marine service of the United States or any member of the Tennessee national guard in the line of duty and pursuant to military regulations, or is in the actual discharge of official duties as a guard employed by a penal institution, or as a bailiff, marshal or other court officer who has responsibility for protecting persons or property or providing security; or

"(2) Has been directed by a court to bring the firearm for purposes of providing evidence."



The one judge with whom I have discussed this matter is a "strict constructionist" Republican who states that the statute has preempted the field.  In her opinion, an attorney, even though considered in certain respects to be an "officer of the court," is not an "officer having responsibility for protecting persons or property or providing security."  

And being convicted of a Class E felony will strip an attorney not only of a CCW license but also of his or her license to practice law.
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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2005, 04:38:55 PM »
I have a customer who is a Texas judge. He has a carry permit. He also told me that he can carry on an airplane.
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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2005, 03:29:11 PM »
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One of my buddies is a prosecutor, in TX, and has a non-prosecute agreement which allows him to carry in court, church, etc -- we're also a small town w. a rampant meth traffic, and I think his church grants all CCW permit holders permission to carry.

I find this sort of thing reprehensible.  Those charged with enforcing and upholding the law have at least as much obligation to follow it as everyone else.  I think they have a greater obligation to do so.  This type of flagrant nose thumbing at the law destroys public confidence in our process and breeds resentment of government.  No one is served by this.  

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Re: Tempted Not to Shoot It
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2005, 03:55:45 PM »
Considering he spends almost all of his career prosecuting drug smugglers, and there's a 50K bounty on his head, and on any other LEO/prosecutor in TX offered by the Nuevo Laredo cartels -- the same city where the local police got in a running gun battle w. the federales, I think he could merit some special exceptions -- frankly, unless you're a jackass, they probably wouldn't prosecute anyone for carrying where you're not supposed to back home -- barring the post office, and probably the court room -- I agree that some of the restrictions are annoying, but I understand the court room one, as people can get VERY worked up, especially on divorce/child custody cases, etc.
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