Gloom, despair, agony on me..

[DDGator]

Ed,

Of course you are right -- I was exagerating to make the point.  If you read Glock Talk at the right times, you would think every .40 Glock was an explosion waiting to happen.  That clearly is not the case and it was a few very isolated incidents, some probably related to user error (like improper handloads).  I was just drawing the analogy to the slide cracks.  

[EdMan]

Duane,
Ok. I understand. I thought it might have been someting like that. I have had such great shooting enjoyment and reliability with all of my Glocks that I felt I had to dedend them.  

I've read many posts on GlockTalk, but I've never become a member of that forum as it is not as civilized as your forum here.

Ed

[Buz]

Still haven't shot the little bear yet.  I plan on being intimate with her soon though.  I'm thinking 50-60 rounds with a good cleaning afterwards is all I'll need to trust her.  
If I have any issues with the little gem, I'm not gonna worry too much.

I've had several quality handguns over the years and each one had some sort of issue I had to work out.(i.e. bad extractor, barrel not perfectly aligned w/ cylinder, tritium sight gone bad)  Each time I got it fixed either by the local gunsmith or by sending it back to the manufacturer.  I paid between $700-$1000 new for each of them.  It's just part of having a gun "come into its own".  If you happen to have gotten one(any gun) that requires no further maintenence, consider yourself lucky.

My point is: Break it in and get it tweaked before you make a final judgement on the piece.  

Anyway, that's my little opinion.

[Michigunner]

Buz, now I wish I were more patient with a new Beretta 92FS Inox (stainless) which came with a burr on the extractor.

It probably would have shot 10,000 rounds between failures, but I  traded it in.  Too bad.  It was a beautiful pistol.

[harrydog]

I've had several quality handguns over the years and each one had some sort of issue I had to work out.(i.e. bad extractor, barrel not perfectly aligned w/ cylinder, tritium sight gone bad)  Each time I got it fixed either by the local gunsmith or by sending it back to the manufacturer.  I paid between $700-$1000 new for each of them.  It's just part of having a gun "come into its own".  If you happen to have gotten one(any gun) that requires no further maintenence, consider yourself lucky.

That hasn't been my experience at all.  All most all of the pistols I've owned have been utterly reliable from day one.
Glock 17, 19 & 23, HK USP9, USP45 Tactical, HK P7M8, Wilson 1911, Springfield Pro 1911, Liebenberg 1911, Kahr K9, Sig 220.
All of them perfectly flawless in terms of function. If I get a gun that malfunctions consistantly, it's history.
I'm giving the R9 a chance because I realize it's the miniature size that makes it a real challange to get things right. I hope things work out because I really want a 9mm pistol of this size.

[Buz]

OK, I never had a problem w/ my Glock either.  Never really felt safe w/ one in the tube though so I sold it.

Anyhow I agree with you in that I really want a 9mm in this size too, and I'm willing to send it back if need be to get it right.  

[Calvin Cooledge]

Anyhow I agree with you in that I really want a 9mm in this size too, and I'm willing to send it back if need be to get it right.  

Welcome to our list, Buz. You can consider it your own as well. We all have ownership of some kind here and we all want the 'pup' to fulfill our dreams. I can't begin to count the number of mechanical items I've purchased over the years that failed me utterly and completely.  I'm almost ashamed I was so stupid to believe the hype.

My R9 had some early hiccups, but has been flawless since. I too really really NEED a pocket gun this size, as we all do. So, that's our investment. It gives many psychic and real returns and getting to flawless operation is a frustrating task, sometimes, but a worthy one.

I liken the gun world to my guitar world. We are always looking for that  guitar with "something more", that will finally be the perfect (and last) guitar I'll ever need. But perfection, although attainable, is rarely acheived, but is always being sought by guys like us who need to be on the forefront. Or back nine;^)

Hayword N. Edgewise

[Buz]

Hayward,
I too have a guitar addiction.  It's very similar to my handgun addiction.  I've tried many, and sold most only to keep a few of my real favorites.  I don't like excess ones lying around(guns or guitars)

Thanks for the welcome.  Everyone is really friendly here and it's a nice place to "hang out".

[theirishguard]

OK Calvin and Buz, what kind of guiters do you guys like?
Tom

[Michigunner]

I've been thinking about buying an inexpensive classic guitar.

Does anyone have an idea which is a best economy buy?

It would be just lightly used.

I bought a wonderful book about building your own guitar, but decided it might be beyond my skill level.  It is a very interesting subject.  The book name is probably:       
  
Classic Guitar Construction
by Irving Sloane

You had to build your own mold to form the sides.

Bill  

[Michigunner]

On the subject of building something, there is a terrific book which shows you how to make a telescope.

I ground the 8 inch mirror down to the finest abrasive, but have not completed the final polish and submission to a lab for metal plating to make the mirror.

The astonishing thing for the layman is that you can see and remove bumps on the mirror that are about one ten millions of an inch.  If you touch it, it raises a bump, so you let is sit for thirty minutes to calm down so you wont be removing the bump from touching.

http://willbell.com/tm/tm3.htm

Bill

[harrydog]

As long as this has veered off topic....
I have a friend who worked at Martin Guitar many years ago. They were allowed to build themselves any Guitar they wanted, on their own time. He was really good at that stuff. I remember he also built himself a harpsichord - a painstakingly long process.

[Calvin Cooledge]

As long as this has veered off topic....
I have a friend who worked at Martin Guitar many years ago. They were allowed to build themselves any Guitar they wanted, on their own time. He was really good at that stuff. I remember he also built himself a harpsichord - a painstakingly long process.

Ironically, I go to Allentown, PA every Christmas, which isn't too far from the Martin factory, but they are closed for the holidays, so I can never go on their tour.

I am an old rock n' roller from way back ('60s), when I had a small band and did a few performances, including a school talent show, in which all the girls screamed, like we were the Beatles, or something. That was it for me; I needed to be a rock star. Since I'm NOT a rock star, and don't even know anyone who plays one on TV, I assuage my lack of star power with the guitars of the stars. And amps. And I quest for tone. It may be elusive, but I keep looking and hearing. It doesn't hurt that my son is in Rock n' Roll college in Boston. He has the perfect dad to indulge him in my, um, his fantasy.

My tastes in guitars are eclectic and electric. I have American guitars, Korean guitars, Mexican guitars, Chinese guitars (yes, they are making some great stuff over there!). Same with amps. I do not gig and never plan to, so all my amps are small, studio type things.  But they all have killer tone. I'm not a great player; I can play all the notes, just not in order;^) But I love it. The dogs, now THEY have to leave the house whenever I'm playing because it hurts their ears (and mine;^)

Sorry for that really obscure Subject:line. I'm famous for them...

Hayword N. Edgewise
Director
Home for the Terminally Obscure

[Skyhook]

Karl phoned last Friday, said they were working on the gun.

Knowing of no new machine development which did not require 'tuning' and adjustment periods, I have reason to believe the problems I have experienced are being addressed.

I am hoping all difficulties will be taken care of and the R9 will function to the levels expected.

When the gun returns, I'll run it through some range work and let youse all know..

[Skyhook]

Waiting... Waiting... Waiting...

"...time has stood still, since we're apart...."

Everybody, now: "I cain't stop loving you so I've made up my mind...."