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Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« on: October 14, 2004, 07:19:33 PM »
This has been posted before, but bears repeating:  PROPER LUBE OF THE R-9 IS ESSENTIAL.

Here is the description of the process from Eric:

"...the best way to ensure the reliable function, as best we can with this firearm due to the extremely close tolerances used in it's manufacture, it is best to take the slide off after every 50 to 80 rounds and give it a wipe down and some fresh lube. The R9 is a specialty built firearm and it needs that extra bit of care, due such a machine, to be ready when you need it. This extra care will pay off with dividends! We use Super Lube PTFE on the rails, the lockup area of the barrel, a little bit on the cone of the barrel (front bushing area if you will) and the barrel lug area itself. Other areas use Mobil One Synthetic motor oil 0-30 weight. This is good for the trigger pivot area, firing pin, magazine latch area and hammer area. Do this and she should perform very well for you. Most of the guns returned to us for warranty repair have all been absent of lubrication and dirty beyond belief!  We simply can not believe it."...Eric Rohrbaugh / 4 October '04

Eric has also sent me some pics showing exactly where the SuperLube should go...

On the barrel:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/Rohrbaugh%20Factory/barrellube.jpg

And on the rails, including the underside and the inside of the rails -- just "paint" it on:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/Rohrbaugh%20Factory/properlube--includingunderrail.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/Rohrbaugh%20Factory/lubeinsideframe.jpg

These photos and instructions will be shipping with new pistols in the near future.

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Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2004, 08:06:17 AM »
>>A picture is worth a thousand words - Those photographs are very helpful...TW<<

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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2004, 10:43:42 AM »
Thanks for the clarification!

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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2004, 01:47:28 PM »
Incursion ain't exaggerating about the "Vaseline-like lube that they use."
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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2004, 03:28:19 PM »
More material that I think I'll try and archive in a ref pages section on my server.  

Looks rather extreme but - we have to remember not only the tight tolerances but - the need to preserve the life of the frame seeing as it is aluminum with stainless slide acting on it.
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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2004, 03:51:07 PM »
 www.super-lube.com. You can order online.

They apply it using a syringe. Hopefully, at some time in the future, they may be able to offer it via their website.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2004, 04:51:58 PM »
Very good info-Thanks....
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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2004, 06:58:24 PM »
By the way, Super-Lube makes a variety of products-from grease to oils.

This appears to be their grease product.
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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2004, 03:55:40 PM »
I just read on the Superlube site concerning the specs that the Superlube grease has a shelf life of 24 monthes. I have never heard of a grease or oil having a shelf life. Does this have ramifications if you use it at 25 monthes? For those that have this grease, is there an expiration date on the container?
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2004, 06:23:37 PM »
I have used Greased Lightning® on most of my machine tools and firearms for years. It has the PTFE (Teflon®) in it combined with a detergent 30wt motor oil. As far as I have researched PTFE is the slickest thing known to man. Lubes have to do several things beside just be slick. First of all they have to stay at the location that needs the lube. This is where viscosity comes into play. With an area like around the barrel where there is a lot of room and movement between parts you need a higher viscosity, like grease or heavy oil, to keep the lube in the place its needed. In pivot points you can use a lighter lube. PTFE is slick, I once did a small test with my metal lathe tail stock using a spring scale. Testing the amount of force needed to move it after lubricating with different products. Thoroughly cleaning with solvent between each product. When comparing each type, grease, med wt. oil and light oils, anything with the PTFE in it was far better that without. The only reason I use Greased Lightning® brand is because it is cheap at K-Mart. There are a lot of products out on the market with PTFE someone may want to experiment with some of them.

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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2004, 07:36:34 PM »
Tetra Gun Grease aways had a good reputation.  Is it still a good option?

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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2004, 10:02:03 PM »
I ordered the Super-Lube as recommended by the Rohrbaugh's but am wondering if the lube photos are exaggerated for demonstration purposes?  Do they really recommend that it be applied so generously?

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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2005, 01:06:17 PM »
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Tetra Gun Grease aways had a good reputation.  Is it still a good option?

I hope so, that's all the "grease" I have on hand and my new R9S straight from the factory is BONE DRY!

EDIT: I think I covered this in another post. It wasn't bone dry once I took it apart (I could see all the slide parts more easily), but the barrel length and the barrel hood had no lube/grease on them. The rails and barrel lug were lubed.
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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2005, 03:26:27 PM »
''BONE DRY''??  Heck - I should mention that to Eric because AFAIK they always leave greased.  Might have been an unwitting omission they should know about.
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Re: Proper Lube of the R-9 -- this is a MUST READ
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2005, 09:52:38 PM »
I have just ordered an R9S and have been looking thru this forum for operating and maintenance tips.
QUESTION ON LUBE:  I have been using Brian Enos' Slide Glide on my H&K USP, and my NAA .380 Guardian.  The stuff was formulated for Mr. Enos by a automatic transmission engineer from GM.  Seems to be really slippery and it stays put.
Does anyone have any experience with Slide-Glide on the Rohrbaugh pistols?  Eric Rohrbaugh: Any comments?

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