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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: Stainless grip screws
« Last post by jetboater on February 24, 2021, 10:55:40 PM »
Got your PM—will mail them out in the morning.
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Forum News and Feedback / Re: Attention Prospective New Members: Please Read
« Last post by DDGator on February 24, 2021, 09:42:36 PM »

I knew this story, but I'm glad you told it again.  Really, you and Karl saved the firearms industry to your own financial detriment.  Kudos to being on the right side of history!

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Forum News and Feedback / Re: Attention Prospective New Members: Please Read
« Last post by ECR on February 24, 2021, 09:16:13 PM »
Thank God that ring didn't make it into the design.

Hey, Phil and everyone here,

Here’s the story on the “Safe Gun” Technology design being put to the “Back Seat”. 

My brother Karl wanted to do it because there was a lot of interest by the government and it looked like things were going in that direction 20 years ago. I was watching all of the different forums back then to get a feel for what you, the public, wanted. . . . . and it wasn't this "Safe Gun" stuff! Then, New Jersey put the nail in the coffin for any sort of this technology. They put into law that if a company comes up with a reliable "Safe Gun" technology, then every firearm, whether handgun or long gun, would have to have it on their firearms within a two-year period in the state of New Jersey, with others most likely to follow. Can you imagine the money we could have made with that patent!? Everyone would have had to get the license to use our system on their firearms. We were looking at some serious cash coming in our direction. Our Rohrbaugh R9 was already being talked about on the forums as the world’s smallest and lightest 9mm pistol and now “Safe Gun” Technology to boot!? However, once the government enforcement of “Safe Gun” tech details got out, we were considered just like another Smith & Wesson “Selling out to The Feds” for offering such a controversial system. Here is the fubar: Originally that technology was going to be used by our armed forces and police departments to protect themselves from the enemy picking up their sidearm and trying to use it to kill our guys. That technology would have been a good and honorable cause being used in that capacity. However, they turned that around and instead made that tech mandatory for civilian firearms only, whilst the armed forces and police were exempt. Now hold on a moment fellas, here is some deep inside information coming right from the manufacturer for you on this issue back in the day. . . . . . I had a conversation with Karl about this and you, the public, and your disdain for such a bill. I convinced Karl to stop the development of the technology because the feds were going to use it against us, the patriotic free Americans! Along with the fact that the public was starting to badmouth Rohrbaugh Firearms Corp. because of the tech before we even got started! Not a good thing. Karl agreed and we abandoned the project. I put it out to the forums I was participating in to keep people informed about the progress of our R9 project that we were going to abandon the “Safe Gun” version and just make our pistol without it. . . . A standard semi-auto 9mm pocket pistol. The people on the forums said something like, and I’m paraphrasing here:  “Well now that the Rohrbaugh Brothers have abandoned that Safe Gun technology pistol, I am going to wish them well on their venture and success with the R9!” The rest is, as they say, history. We became the 2005 NRA Handgun of The Year. At that time, we were the only company in the NRA's history to come out of nowhere and in the first year of production be honored with that prestigious award.

. . . . . As Paul Harvey would say:  "And now. . . you know the rest of the story."

Good Night ............. Be safe and stay well every one of you Patriots.

Eric R.
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Forum News and Feedback / Re: Attention Prospective New Members: Please Read
« Last post by tracker on February 24, 2021, 07:38:51 PM »
Amen, brother.
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Forum News and Feedback / Re: Attention Prospective New Members: Please Read
« Last post by PhilZ on February 24, 2021, 07:31:24 PM »
Thank God that ring didn't make it into the design.
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Forum News and Feedback / Re: Attention Prospective New Members: Please Read
« Last post by ECR on February 24, 2021, 05:55:36 PM »
Yes, Phil, for that first model we were working on a .380 acp, the barrel was fully exposed. That was the prototype for our "Safe Gun" technology pistol that was "hot" or "had government interest" in around the year 2000. This design utilized a neodymium magnet ring to activate the trigger to fire the gun.
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Forum News and Feedback / Re: Attention Prospective New Members: Please Read
« Last post by PhilZ on February 24, 2021, 07:51:52 AM »
Is that the barrel in the front top of the prototype slides?
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: NIB R9 Review and Range Report
« Last post by ECR on February 23, 2021, 10:14:44 PM »
Good Evening Bosco,

Well, it sounds like a fun first day at the range. Thanks for the write-up for us to all enjoy! I can shed some light on the one magazine you purchased separately from the pistol. The R9 is all hand fit, and that includes the magazines. Each R9 that left the factory we test-fired with the two mags that go with that gun. The issue that you are experiencing did happen for a run of two trays of frames. What transpired is this:  In machining, there is something called “The stacking of tolerances”. What happened with that one mag you have that doesn’t fit correctly is that was not tried in that particular gun frame. The tolerances in the R9 were that exact that if you have a mag well that the I.D. measures at the low end of the acceptable QC specs and a mag, manufactured by a very reputable company such as Checkmate, and that mag O.D. measures in at the high end of the specification, you can experience the issue you have with that one magazine. Snug fit. That did happen once in a while for those few frames and that was mostly when someone ordered extra mags from us and we did not have the pistol to try the magazine fit in that particular firearm. We went over the drawings immediately and came to an agreement for new specs for the frame and the magazine to alleviate that problem. I’m sorry that your one snug-fitting mag is just one of those out in the mix. I apologize for that good Sir.

Well, with that piece of inside information about the few tight magazine issues experienced, it seems like your NIB R9 is in good condition and ready to go to work. Being it was built during the end of our run, there is one last bit of information that everyone may like to hear. Prior to us selling the company to Remington Arms Corp. in January of 2014, we began using Storm Lake in Tennessee to manufacture our barrels about one year earlier in 2013. They did a great job on those. However, just as Remington was negotiating with us, they also purchased Storm Lake. 

Congratulations on your new pistol and should you have any questions about it, feel free to ask away here. We have many enthusiasts that are well versed in the workings of these pistols. If you are in a real jamb that can’t seem to be rectified, you may email me personally through the forum here via a pm (Private Message). I will send you a response as soon as I can and we’ll work together to make things right.

Sincere Regards,

Eric C. Rohrbaugh

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain it all to me, Eric.  That magazine issue was really bugging me, so it's good to have the mystery solved.  Oh, and no need to apologize on the issue.  I consider the R9 to be a real gift to discerning gun owners, and I'm grateful to finally own one.

As to the tolerances, I was expecting the little gun to have its likes/dislikes when it comes to ammo.  My Seecamp is the same, as have been a few other micros I've owned (oddly enough, my RM380 eats whatever I feed it, dirty or clean).  Now, if I go back to the range and it chokes again on the other ammo, I may start to panic!

Oh, and thanks for your offer of future assistance.  Knock wood, I'll never have to take you up on it....


Ha haa. . . . .  . Well, as long as I'm alive and healthy enough to be on the internet, I'm around to do what I can for ya.

Enjoy your evening.

ECR
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: NIB R9 Review and Range Report
« Last post by boscobarbell on February 23, 2021, 09:47:26 PM »
Nice write up.
I've been carrying my R9 since 2008.
It's my daily carry down here in Florida.
I love this little gun, my daily companion, lol

Thanks.  Yours is the kind of story that convinced me to try the R9.
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: NIB R9 Review and Range Report
« Last post by boscobarbell on February 23, 2021, 09:46:47 PM »
Good Evening Bosco,

Well, it sounds like a fun first day at the range. Thanks for the write-up for us to all enjoy! I can shed some light on the one magazine you purchased separately from the pistol. The R9 is all hand fit, and that includes the magazines. Each R9 that left the factory we test-fired with the two mags that go with that gun. The issue that you are experiencing did happen for a run of two trays of frames. What transpired is this:  In machining, there is something called “The stacking of tolerances”. What happened with that one mag you have that doesn’t fit correctly is that was not tried in that particular gun frame. The tolerances in the R9 were that exact that if you have a mag well that the I.D. measures at the low end of the acceptable QC specs and a mag, manufactured by a very reputable company such as Checkmate, and that mag O.D. measures in at the high end of the specification, you can experience the issue you have with that one magazine. Snug fit. That did happen once in a while for those few frames and that was mostly when someone ordered extra mags from us and we did not have the pistol to try the magazine fit in that particular firearm. We went over the drawings immediately and came to an agreement for new specs for the frame and the magazine to alleviate that problem. I’m sorry that your one snug-fitting mag is just one of those out in the mix. I apologize for that good Sir.

Well, with that piece of inside information about the few tight magazine issues experienced, it seems like your NIB R9 is in good condition and ready to go to work. Being it was built during the end of our run, there is one last bit of information that everyone may like to hear. Prior to us selling the company to Remington Arms Corp. in January of 2014, we began using Storm Lake in Tennessee to manufacture our barrels about one year earlier in 2013. They did a great job on those. However, just as Remington was negotiating with us, they also purchased Storm Lake. 

Congratulations on your new pistol and should you have any questions about it, feel free to ask away here. We have many enthusiasts that are well versed in the workings of these pistols. If you are in a real jamb that can’t seem to be rectified, you may email me personally through the forum here via a pm (Private Message). I will send you a response as soon as I can and we’ll work together to make things right.

Sincere Regards,

Eric C. Rohrbaugh

Thanks so much for taking the time to explain it all to me, Eric.  That magazine issue was really bugging me, so it's good to have the mystery solved.  Oh, and no need to apologize on the issue.  I consider the R9 to be a real gift to discerning gun owners, and I'm grateful to finally own one.

As to the tolerances, I was expecting the little gun to have its likes/dislikes when it comes to ammo.  My Seecamp is the same, as have been a few other micros I've owned (oddly enough, my RM380 eats whatever I feed it, dirty or clean).  Now, if I go back to the range and it chokes again on the other ammo, I may start to panic!

Oh, and thanks for your offer of future assistance.  Knock wood, I'll never have to take you up on it....

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