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Offline marvin

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Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« on: December 28, 2006, 01:55:37 AM »
The R9S has been my most troublesome piece in over 50 years of shooting.I couldn't even get it to feed hardball.
Figured I'd give it 150 rounds to break in and kept lurking the form for ideas.
I accepted the challenge since I've always fancyed myself a tinkerer and I was disinclined to bad mouth either the brothers or the gat.
Believe I tried every lube and ammo known to man,so after 200 rounds and detailed notes I came to the conclusion that break in was not the problem and the gun was probably broke in{broken}.Got some ideas from Karl and Maria and decided to seek expert hands on factory consultation.Since I was pretty sure the problem was magazine related (round #3 in either mag would fail about 90% of the time)I shipped just the magazines back to the factory.
Karl called me and said that he replaced one mag that was out of spec and changed out the old mag springs for the the stiffer new ones.
Got a chance to try out the new mags and guess what? Fired twenty some rounds of assorted through both mags and not even one coughed up hairball.Finished the session with a mag of 115 GDHP.Never skipped a beat.Before the new springs I could never get two GDHP in a row to feed.Nice christmas gift huh?

Jeff

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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 03:52:00 AM »
Congratulations Marvin!  that's great news.  Hopefully those new mag springs will be the answer to a lot of problem headaches for pup owners out there.  

Let's also hope that of those type of owners, they will have the perserverence and patience that you had so that they too can benefit from the  fix.

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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 09:57:23 AM »
Boy that sound good!! ;D   Tom
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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 10:49:27 AM »
Marvin:

Thanks for the report.  And if I have not previously welcomed you to the Forum, I do so now.
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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 11:15:46 AM »


Jeff - this sounds very encouraging for those having feeding problems by using the new stronger mag springs.


Even though mine has been fine I may order a set.

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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 11:59:08 AM »
Marvin:

Dare I ask?  The new stiffer springs are not going to be
a freebie (upgrade) from the factory?  TIA.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2006, 01:28:40 PM by One45 »

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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 12:37:01 AM »
Dear 145
My stock response to your question would be"I have no idea".That said, after many years of successful experience as a business consultant,I would advise the factory that any reasonable cost in replaceing the springs would be justified by the increased good will earned.
My advice to the consumer would be"it never hurts to ask".
Replacing everyones springs=large expense.
Replacing springs of those who ask = much smaller expense.
Don't take it personally or get caught up in someone elses' business decision.We've got close to a grand tied up already.I figured that sending the pistol back would cost me $50 + while Buying a new spring and trying it out would be much less expensive.That was a decision I could make and a cost I could control.
The people at the factory are very nice and user friendly.If you can't figure out the problem send the gun back and charge it off as an expense toward your own mental health.
PS   My son in law,grandson and I went out shooting this afternoon and I fired off one mag of WWB and another of GDHP.Not a hicup.Several more sessions like this and I'll retire my J frame.
If you've got a feeding problem give the new springs a try.Hell how much is the cost of only one box of GDHP ?

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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2006, 08:40:24 AM »
Thanks for the help there, Jeff.  All good points.  I sent
Maria a fax yesterday to check on the availability (cost)
of the new springs.  Whatever they cost I'll get them and see
how they run.  Best and Happy New Year.

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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2006, 05:11:22 PM »
Welcome from me Marvin - late checking in to forum!

Indeed, springs in general are very much the critical aspect to this pocket rocket!
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Re: Good news Hallelujah chariots' a come
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 02:59:13 AM »
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The people at the factory are very nice and user friendly.If you can't figure out the problem send the gun back and charge it off as an expense toward your own mental health.

All very true.  Of course, the other way to look at this is that Rohrbaugh has very limited staff.  If sending out a set of magazine springs prevents the pistol from having to be shipped to the factory, logged in, evaluated and shipped out, all under warrenty, well then lots more is saved than the cost of the springs.  Both customer and company are saved time and money.

Personally, I would prefer to see them spending time on R&D and production but, as you said, that's someone else's business decision.