Author Topic: 9mm Parabellum versus 9mm Kurtz  (Read 4492 times)

Offline Buffalo

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9mm Parabellum versus 9mm Kurtz
« on: November 11, 2012, 02:35:32 PM »
Hi,
I've patiently waiting for my Tribute and was reading the Rohrbaugh manual online and read where it is in 9mm Kurtz caliber.
I wants not sure if that was the same 9mm Luger that my Kahr PM9 takes so I hate to admit it, but I Googled the terms.

Am I correct in understanding that I should NOT use say Blazer Brass 9mm Luger in the Rohrbaugh but a special 9mm Kurtz which is the same as 380acp?

I know not to us +P, but are I reading this right or am I missing something?

Thanks
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Offline yankee2500

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Re: 9mm Parabellum versus 9mm Kurtz
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2012, 04:51:24 PM »
  If your Tribute is a 9mm you can use any 9mm ammo. It is also called 9mm Luger 9mm NATO but NOT 9mm Kurtz that is 9mm Short or 380 acp.
  Blazer brass 9mm is ok to use as long as it functions in your gun some can be ammo fussy so try whatever you have and stick with what works.

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Re: 9mm Parabellum versus 9mm Kurtz
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 07:19:35 PM »
Buffalo:

The Rohrbaugh R9 is chambered for the 9mm Luger, sometimes referred to as 9mm Parabellum or 9X19mm. Use only standard pressure ammunition in the R9 -- not +P or +P+.

Other "9mm"  rounds are:

9mm Makarov, sometimes referred to as 9X18mm.  It is not interchangeable with the 9mm Luger. It was a standard military pistol cartridge of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc in the latter half of the 20th Century.

9mm Kurz, sometimes referred to as 9X17mm and most commonly known in the United States as the .380ACP.  It is not interchangeable with either of the above rounds and cannot be used in the Rohrbaugh R9.  It is, however, the round for which the Rohrbaugh K380 is chambered.

9x21mm,  also known as the 9×21mm IMI or 9mm IMI, reflecting its having been designed by Israel Military Industries .  As it is a rimless round, the 9×21mm is often used in USPSA/IPSC competition in Open class firearms.

9x23 Winchester, a cartridge developed as a joint venture by Winchester Ammunition and Colt's Manufacturing Company and intended primarily for competition shooters as a replacement for .38 Super.

9x25mm Dillon, a "wildcat" cartridge developed by employees working at Dillon Precision for use in USPSA/IPSC Open guns. It is made by necking down a 10mm Auto case to 9 mm.

There are still other 9mm cartridges that have been developed over the years, but the 9mm Luger (9mm Parabellum, or 9X19mm) is the round for the R9 and the .380ACP (9mm Kurz or 9X17mm) is the round for the K380.

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Re: 9mm Parabellum versus 9mm Kurtz
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2012, 09:51:29 PM »
And lets not forget the 22TCM.  ;D

The .22 TCM is a funky cartridge. It’s designed from a necked down piece of 9mm Parabellum brass to take a .223 caliber bullet (the same bullet used in 5.56x45mm NATO rifles) and fire from a handgun.
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