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Other Guns / Beretta Cheetah, 84BB
« Last post by MikeInTexas on July 25, 2025, 04:20:43 PM »
For anyone interested Palmeto State Armory has gotten a shipment of Italian Police trade in Berettas in .380.  I ordered some earlier this week and they just came in.  They are nice, little holster wear, but pretty much new looking otherwise.  Tight springs, no rust, etc.  I think these are graded very good condition.  Model 84BB.  Price is $299.  So for me it was about $360 all in after tax, shipping and transfer fee. The picture below shows a pair of them as they came to my dealer.  I've had a Browning BDA 380 for years that I like, it's basically the same gun with a closed slide and decocker.  They both use the same magazines.  No magazine safety on the Berettas.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-model-84-bb-3-8-13rd-380acp-pistol-le-trade-in-excellent-condition-a5636000000000.html
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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Re: FS R9 $850
« Last post by MikeInTexas on July 25, 2025, 10:00:44 AM »
I've been told by the lawyer than handles my firearm trusts not to, if I can avoid it.  A bill of sale can quickly become a signed confession by an aggressive prosecutor if you slipped up and sold it to a prohibited person and other reasons.  Even if they fooled you into thinking they were legit (the old saying: You may beat the rap, but you will not beat the ride. applies).  In Texas (and I think Florida as well) it is not required.  Giving out my personal information that can tie me to anything, a time and place may not always be in my best interest.  I know a lot of gun selling sites for individuals seem to promote them and I wonder if that is an attempt to pacify those that want to take our freedom to freely sell and trade our personal items from us.  Many say, well if its used in a crime it proves I am not attached to the gun.  Yeah, but you are probably safe anyway due to a multitude of reasons, but now you are connected to the crime with a paper trail.  I have never (and never will) make a shady gun sale, however I don't feel the need to obsess over and remember the details of the transaction once it's completed.

Most people are worried about the criminal liability.  The bigger issue may be the civil liability that it connects you to the gun.  The news is filled with people suing gun shops (saw one where the shop did not even sell the gun in question) and going after anyone connected with money.   A grieving family that finds that piece of paper may not care it was all done on 'the up and up', and the bar for a ruling against you is a lot lower in civil court.

Personally I think it's more of a liability than a protection.

I know this goes against a lot of popular opinion, I am not explaining it as well as my attorney did to me.



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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Re: FS R9 $850
« Last post by DDGator on July 25, 2025, 08:42:06 AM »

Interesting question, Mike.  As long as you do the sale legally -- i.e., to an adult Florida resident -- I'm not sure how it could create liability?

In my mind, the bill of sale is your proof that you no longer own or are responsible for the firearm. 

I was contacted once by law enforcement about a gun that I had bought new winding up in their possession.  They did not say why.  I told them I had sold it to an unknown person at a gun show for cash.  I'm sure that sounded shady...  I never heard anything else about it, but that made me a lot more interested in documenting sales. 
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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Re: FS R9 $850
« Last post by MikeInTexas on July 24, 2025, 11:34:48 AM »
Out of curiosity, why the bill of sale requirement? 
Do you believe it provides a level of security instead of being a liability?
(The attorney that handles my NFA items told me to avoid them whenever possible.)


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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Re: FS R9 $850
« Last post by DDGator on July 24, 2025, 09:27:05 AM »

The classifieds are generally limited to Rohrbaugh guns and related items.  Honestly, this is not the place to get exposure on any other type of listing. ;)

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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Re: FS R9 $850
« Last post by hotel charlie on July 23, 2025, 11:18:08 AM »
Thank you sir.

I saw the little guy at a show in Ft Worth but didn’t act on the impulse. A short time later we planned a trip in to Tomball so I called his shop to see if he still had it, and found out he was going to be at the Conroe show. I beat feet to the show and grabbed it.

Every time I pick up the R9 I admire the fit and finish. I hate to sell but I have made a decision to trim the numbers. I am letting go of a few others. I will have to review the rules but I don’t think I can list them here as they are not R9’s.
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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / Re: FS R9 $850
« Last post by MikeInTexas on July 23, 2025, 10:15:34 AM »
Nice late model R9, probably I think those had every improvement incorporated into them.

BTW, Conroe has a gun show this weekend.  Never knew Allen of AJ sold these guns.

Good Luck with you sale.
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Classifieds -- For Buying or Selling / FS R9 $750
« Last post by hotel charlie on July 21, 2025, 04:20:50 PM »
For Sale - R9 $850$750 sold locally for $700.
I bought this R9 in 2010 from AJ Sport Shop at the gun show in Conroe, TX. I have maybe shot a box to function test with carry ammo. I have all the documents, the box, two magazines, and a spare unopened replacement recoil spring. I have carried it a few times, but it shows no wear. I can provide additional pictures as requested. We can talk on the phone to answer further questions and improve buying confidence if interested. I am in the south Fort Worth area and am open to FTF transfer with LTC or DL and bill of sale.   
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: Question on value
« Last post by hotel charlie on July 21, 2025, 12:37:55 PM »
Thank you for the response. That is just my luck with me: buy high, sell low. The R1s seem to be a collector's and more of a niche item. I. Got mine back in 2010 because I thought they were a very cool semi-custom mini 9mm. I joined this site back then, but I was never very active, and unfortunately, I lost my username and history.  A lot has changed over the years; now it just sits in the safe, and now it’s time for it to find a new home.
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Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) / Re: Question on value
« Last post by ccoorreeyy on July 12, 2025, 06:39:17 PM »
Probably not the answer your hoping for but R9 prices seem to be down.  Looking at past, sold, gunbroker auctions most that have sold in t3cent months are in the $600-$800 range with a couple as much as $1650ish but those sells look fishy because of like guns offered at the same time of those listed for much lower prices.

The Rohrbaugh market goes up and down historically.  Right now its way down from what I've seen.
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